openSUSE ALP: Summary of discussions and current plans
Hi all, It has been almost one week since we started the thread sharing SUSE's plans for ALP and opening the door for discussions about what openSUSE will build based on it [1] Given the thread got (understandably) long, I wanted to take this opportunity to summarise where we stand today: - There seemed to be general consensus to SUSE's plan to offer openSUSE branded 1:1 equivalents of their ALP "Server" Products (currently known as Bedrock and Micro) - APlanas suggested openSUSE should not build anything based on SUSE ALP, but instead focus on adapting Factory (and MicroOS/MicroOS Desktop) to be more ALP like [2] - I replied that I believe Alberto's suggestions to be inevitable but something to be done AFTER we're sure the community is building from ALP everything it wishes to [3] - Simon Lees suggested an openSUSE ALP Product that would be Tumbleweed/Leap like but focused on one of the lighter desktops like XFCE. This seemed to be mostly to mitigate the developer/maintenance requirements in the absence of being able to draw from SUSE-developed Desktop packages as in the past [4] - Lubos suggested an openSUSE ALP Product that would be like "old Leap", but forking from Tumbleweed anything that cannot be provided by SUSE:ALP. The biggest fears/threats to this idea include a possible lack of interested contributors, and a lack of resources for maintenance and QA [5] There has not been many/any voices speaking up in support for either Simons or Lubos' suggestions. Lubos' suggestion in particular really will require broad support from lots of groups within the community, including - Maintenance - QA - All the teams behind the Desktop stacks wanting to be included (KDE, GNOME, et al) - And possibly most devel project maintainers, depending on details like the cadence of forking from Tumbleweed, they could find themselves needing to maintain versions in this openSUSE ALP "old Leap" for some years (I'd estimate upto 5), and not be able to benefit from SUSE's work in this area as they did with SLE+Leap because ALP will likely often most such things containerised. Therefore it would be really nice if people from the above groups, either individually or with one person speaking for the whole teams, could speak up and let us all know how they feel about this proposal, so we can get a better feeling about how viable it may be. Regards, Richard [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/G... [2] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/message/... [3] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/message/... [4] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/message/... [5] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/message/... -- Richard Brown Distributions Architect SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstraße 146, D-90461 Nuremberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Directors/Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Martje Boudien Moerman
participants (7)
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Jiri Slaby
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Lubos Kocman
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Maurizio Galli
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Neal Gompa
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Richard Brown
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Robert Schweikert
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Simon Lees