[opensuse-factory] the partitioner
Oddball wrote:
The partitioninfo should be true, and not vague. I allways have to have all my partitions written down on a piece of paper, to know what is where. This is a lot of unnessesary xtra work, because, the partitioner *knows* what is where, it just don't tells it.
I don't recognise that situation at all - certainly not in openSUSE. Doesn't the partitioner show everything, even including NFS partitions and such? /Per Jessen, Zürich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen schreef:
Oddball wrote:
The partitioninfo should be true, and not vague. I allways have to have all my partitions written down on a piece of paper, to know what is where. This is a lot of unnessesary xtra work, because, the partitioner *knows* what is where, it just don't tells it.
I don't recognise that situation at all - certainly not in openSUSE. Doesn't the partitioner show everything, even including NFS partitions and such?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
It does not tell: /boot, /10.3, /home10.3, / , /home, /10.2, /home10.2, /tmp, /spare,only info about windows is given. It says what filesystem, and the size, name/number of the harddisk, those things. So it knows about the other info also. I will make a prntscrn when i am able to log in root for the yast gui. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 3.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball schreef:
I will make a prntscrn when i am able to log in root for the yast gui.
Which is not possible, because i have to go into the installer, and at that point i donot have a possibility to print the screen, might be an option to be available also, to be able to use the printscreen button from the keyboard.. ;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 3.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball wrote:
Per Jessen schreef:
Oddball wrote:
The partitioninfo should be true, and not vague. I allways have to have all my partitions written down on a piece of paper, to know what is where. This is a lot of unnessesary xtra work, because, the partitioner *knows* what is where, it just don't tells it.
I don't recognise that situation at all - certainly not in openSUSE. Doesn't the partitioner show everything, even including NFS partitions and such?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
It does not tell: /boot, /10.3, /home10.3, / , /home, /10.2, /home10.2, /tmp, /spare, only info about windows is given. It says what filesystem, and the size, name/number of the harddisk, those things. So it knows about the other info also.
Wait - are all of those individual partitions? If the installer somehow doesn't show those under "Custom Partition", it's a bug.
Oddball schreef:
I will make a prntscrn when i am able to log in root for the yast gui.
Which is not possible, because i have to go into the installer, and at that point i donot have a possibility to print the screen, might be an option to be available also, to be able to use the printscreen button from the keyboard.. ;)
I think there is a way to do a screenshot, but I almost always install over ssh, so it's not a problem for me anyway. /Per Jessen, Zürich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen schreef:
Oddball wrote:
Per Jessen schreef:
Oddball wrote:
The partitioninfo should be true, and not vague. I allways have to have all my partitions written down on a piece of paper, to know what is where. This is a lot of unnessesary xtra work, because, the partitioner *knows* what is where, it just don't tells it.
I don't recognise that situation at all - certainly not in openSUSE. Doesn't the partitioner show everything, even including NFS partitions and such?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
It does not tell: /boot, /10.3, /home10.3, / , /home, /10.2, /home10.2, /tmp, /spare, only info about windows is given. It says what filesystem, and the size, name/number of the harddisk, those things. So it knows about the other info also.
Wait - are all of those individual partitions? If the installer somehow doesn't show those under "Custom Partition", it's a bug.
Well, than it has been a bug forever, because i do not know any different. I complained about this many times, nobody told me it had to be otherwise. It tells me what filesystem, and the size and number of these partitions: /dev/sda, dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, dev/sda5, etc up to 13, at this time, name/number of the harddisk, those things, but not the custom name. It says something, which i don't remember now, because it doesn't make any sense anyway..
Oddball schreef:
I will make a prntscrn when i am able to log in root for the yast gui.
Which is not possible, because i have to go into the installer, and at that point i donot have a possibility to print the screen, might be an option to be available also, to be able to use the printscreen button from the keyboard.. ;)
I think there is a way to do a screenshot, but I almost always install over ssh, so it's not a problem for me anyway.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
That means you install over the network, from another pc? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 3.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball wrote:
Wait - are all of those individual partitions? If the installer somehow doesn't show those under "Custom Partition", it's a bug.
Well, than it has been a bug forever, because i do not know any different. I complained about this many times, nobody told me it had to be otherwise.
It tells me what filesystem, and the size and number of these partitions: /dev/sda, dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, dev/sda5, etc up to 13, at this time, name/number of the harddisk, those things, but not the custom name. It says something, which i don't remember now, because it doesn't make any sense anyway..
Ah - what you call "the custom name" is the mount-point, which is configured in /etc/fstab. If I open the partitioner on a running system, I get all partitions and mounted disks shown, including mount points. On a system you're about to install, there is no /etc/fstab, so YaST cannot tell where the various partitions should be mounted. /Per Jessen, Zürich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen schreef:
Oddball wrote:
Wait - are all of those individual partitions? If the installer somehow doesn't show those under "Custom Partition", it's a bug.
Well, than it has been a bug forever, because i do not know any different. I complained about this many times, nobody told me it had to be otherwise.
It tells me what filesystem, and the size and number of these partitions: /dev/sda, dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, dev/sda5, etc up to 13, at this time, name/number of the harddisk, those things, but not the custom name. It says something, which i don't remember now, because it doesn't make any sense anyway..
Ah - what you call "the custom name" is the mount-point, which is configured in /etc/fstab.
Indeed, that is how i know what is where. /dev/sda10 doesn't say that /10.3 is there, i have to know that, or /dev/sda11, that /, 11 rtesides there. So all that, i have to write down from the running system before.. If you have different pc's, you cannot remember how they are partitioned from the top of your head, helas, at least: i cann't. ;)
If I open the partitioner on a running system, I get all partitions and mounted disks shown, including mount points.
Yes, the partioner can read that info.
On a system you're about to install, there is no /etc/fstab, so YaST cannot tell where the various partitions should be mounted.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Offcourse there is. It can find all the installs and root partitions in the repair system, and if it 'read' grub, it had certainly the running systems. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 3.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 04:09:54PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Oddball wrote:
Wait - are all of those individual partitions? If the installer somehow doesn't show those under "Custom Partition", it's a bug.
Well, than it has been a bug forever, because i do not know any different. I complained about this many times, nobody told me it had to be otherwise.
It tells me what filesystem, and the size and number of these partitions: /dev/sda, dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, dev/sda5, etc up to 13, at this time, name/number of the harddisk, those things, but not the custom name. It says something, which i don't remember now, because it doesn't make any sense anyway..
Ah - what you call "the custom name" is the mount-point, which is configured in /etc/fstab.
If I open the partitioner on a running system, I get all partitions and mounted disks shown, including mount points.
On a system you're about to install, there is no /etc/fstab, so YaST cannot tell where the various partitions should be mounted.
YaST can do this for you: In the "Expert Partitioner" use the "Expert..." button and then the entry "Import Mount Points from existing /etc/fstab". In openSUSE 11.1 this will be at a more prominent position. cu Arvin -- Arvin Schnell, <aschnell@suse.de> Software Engineer, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Arvin Schnell schreef:
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 04:09:54PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Oddball wrote:
Wait - are all of those individual partitions? If the installer somehow doesn't show those under "Custom Partition", it's a bug.
Well, than it has been a bug forever, because i do not know any different. I complained about this many times, nobody told me it had to be otherwise.
It tells me what filesystem, and the size and number of these partitions: /dev/sda, dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, dev/sda5, etc up to 13, at this time, name/number of the harddisk, those things, but not the custom name. It says something, which i don't remember now, because it doesn't make any sense anyway..
Ah - what you call "the custom name" is the mount-point, which is configured in /etc/fstab.
If I open the partitioner on a running system, I get all partitions and mounted disks shown, including mount points.
On a system you're about to install, there is no /etc/fstab, so YaST cannot tell where the various partitions should be mounted.
YaST can do this for you: In the "Expert Partitioner" use the "Expert..." button and then the entry "Import Mount Points from existing /etc/fstab".
In openSUSE 11.1 this will be at a more prominent position.
cu Arvin
That is very nice to hear! I did not know about that option... (maybe i do not think of meself as an expert;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.25-rc8-12-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.68 (KDE 4.0.68 >= 20080402) "release 3.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball wrote: [...]
It does not tell: /boot, /10.3, /home10.3, / , /home, /10.2, /home10.2, /tmp, /spare,only info about windows is given.
That's hard to tell. What if you have more systems installed and e.g. /dev/sda1 is /10.3 in one system and /openSUSE10.3 in another? What if the devices have different order in each system (/dev/sda vs. /dev/sdb)? What if the old system uses /dev/hdX devices?... Use device labels. I have set e.g. 'openSUSE10.3' for the root partition and it is displayed in the running system and also in installation. More over is independent on the device name and device order... Ladislav -- Best Regards Ladislav Slezák Yast Developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: lslezak@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Arvin Schnell
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Ladislav Slezak
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Oddball
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Per Jessen