On úterý 29. března 2016 8:29 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Tuesday 2016-03-29 08:00, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On pondělí 28. března 2016 19:36 Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2016-03-28 19:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2016-03-28 at 14:57 +0200, Jan
> If you want an i586 release, it'd be better working on
> openSUSE:Factory than 42.1 (which is a done deal already).
I understand that Factory does have a 32 bit version, it is LEAP
And the next possible Leap release will draw from Factory (and
SLE-SP), not 42.1.
But that's Leap 43 you are talking about, not 42.2, I hope.
42.1 has retained SLE's coreutils, and has replaced SLE's
libreoffice, for example. Therefore, I expect the following scheme,
described by osc commands, to (re-)occur for future releases:
* copypac SUSE:SLE-12:SP1/coreutils openSUSE:Leap:42.2
* copypac openSUSE:Factory/libreoffice openSUSE:Leap:42.2
If 42.2 is not to draw from Factory the way 42.1 did, you will be
driving the Leap series into the ground, and I would predict that
users take "Leap" at face value - and leap away.
For some packages, this may be the best way to go, but I don't think we
should see it as a general rule. For example, I'm most likely going to
push Firebird 3.0 into Factory as soon as it's released. But I don't
want to see it in any Leap 42.x as that would be the exact opposite of a
"long term stable" release Leap is (was?) supposed to be. Users who want
FB3 in Leap 42.x can get it from server:database or even from
home:mkubecek:firebird30 but those who confine themselves to standard
repositories deserve the stability they were promised. They will get
2.5.6 or a tested snapshot from the 2.5 series but they will not have to
tackle the 3.0 migration.
So while it makes very good sense to pull latest version from Factory
for _some_ packages, I don't like the idea of seeing it as a genera
rule. I would rather see something like
- 42.1 picked SLE12 SP1 package
* SLE12 SP2 inherits the SP1 package
42.2 should inherit 42.1 package
* SLE12 SP2 has new version
42.2 should pick SLE12 SP2 package
- 42.1 picked Factory (or other newer) package
* if there is a strong reason for version upgrade (typically leaf
desktop packages), pick reliable new version (Factory or other)
* by default, preserve 42.1 package and keep updating it
If we adopt the "what was picked from Factory should be upgraded to
current Factory" algorithm instead, it IMHO kind of beats the very idea
of Leap as a long term stable distribution and there would be har to
justify calling it "Leap 42" rather than simply 13.3, 14.1 etc.
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