[opensuse-factory] This is a test...
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list... -- Marco Calistri opensuse Tumbleweed 64 bit - Kernel 4.5.0-3-default Gnome 3.20 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 15/04/2016 18:02, Kyrill Detinov ha scritto:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:45:50 +0100 ianseeks wrote:
On Friday, 15 April 2016 16:32:49 BST Marco Calistri wrote:
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list...
You can :o)
Not sure. Found his message in the Gmail "Spam" folder.
I stop to receive e-mail I sent here on this list, or better the "mailfrom" with my e-mail address. Very strange! -- Marco Calistri opensuse Tumbleweed 64 bit - Kernel 4.5.0-3-default Gnome 3.20 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile
ianseeks wrote:
On Friday, 15 April 2016 16:32:49 BST Marco Calistri wrote:
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list...
You can :o)
Yep, seems to work fine. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 16/04/2016 04:53, Per Jessen ha scritto:
ianseeks wrote:
On Friday, 15 April 2016 16:32:49 BST Marco Calistri wrote:
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list...
You can :o)
Yep, seems to work fine.
The most strange issue (to me) is that members of opensuse-factory list display my e-mail but me not! Thinking about to unsuscribe my yahoo account and start using another one. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri opensuse Tumbleweed 64 bit - Kernel 4.5.0-3-default Gnome 3.20 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:03, Marco Calistri wrote:
Il 16/04/2016 04:53, Per Jessen ha scritto:
ianseeks wrote:
On Friday, 15 April 2016 16:32:49 BST Marco Calistri wrote:
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list...
You can :o)
Yep, seems to work fine.
The most strange issue (to me) is that members of opensuse-factory list display my e-mail but me not!
Thinking about to unsubscribe my yahoo account and start using another one.
Cheers,
Considering the other f.ckups done by yahoo-mail, this would be the wisest decision. B/c no matter what yahoo domain, yahoo-mail does not play well with any kind of mailing list. Not even Yahoo-groups. - Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-04-16 17:18, Yamaban wrote:
Considering the other f.ckups done by yahoo-mail, this would be the wisest decision. B/c no matter what yahoo domain, yahoo-mail does not play well with any kind of mailing list. Not even Yahoo-groups.
A post by Chris Murphy explained the issue: |> This article appears to explain the problem exactly. But the work |> around is to not use yahoo email addresses with mailing lists. *shrug* |> And it's not new. |> |> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-break... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 04/17/2016 08:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-04-16 17:18, Yamaban wrote:
Considering the other f.ckups done by yahoo-mail, this would be the wisest decision. B/c no matter what yahoo domain, yahoo-mail does not play well with any kind of mailing list. Not even Yahoo-groups. A post by Chris Murphy explained the issue:
|> This article appears to explain the problem exactly. But the work |> around is to not use yahoo email addresses with mailing lists. *shrug* |> And it's not new. |> |> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-break...
Buncha Yahoos! ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 15.04.2016 21:32, Marco Calistri wrote:
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list...
If you have problems with the mailing list please contact the owner of the list, e.g. opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org and do not set test mails to the list. TIA Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Mailinglist Admin http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-04-18 10:14, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 15.04.2016 21:32, Marco Calistri wrote:
It seems that I cannot post anymore on this list...
If you have problems with the mailing list please contact the owner of the list, e.g.
opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
and do not set test mails to the list.
It is possible that this time the owner can not do anything. A post by Chris Murphy in this thread explained the issue: |> This article appears to explain the problem exactly. But the work |> around is to not use yahoo email addresses with mailing lists. *shrug* |> And it's not new. |> |> |> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-break... +++................................. Lucian Constantin IDG News Service Apr 8, 2014 6:10 AM In an attempt to block email spoofing attacks on yahoo.com addresses, Yahoo began imposing a stricter email validation policy that unfortunately breaks the usual workflow on legitimate mailing lists. The problem is a new DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting and Conformance) “reject” policy advertised by Yahoo to third-party email servers, said John Levine, a long-time email infrastructure consultant and president of the Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email (CAUCE), in a message sent to the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) mailing list Monday. ... Over the weekend Yahoo published a DMARC record with “p=reject” essentially telling all receiving email servers to reject emails from yahoo.com addresses that don’t originate from its servers, Levine said. ... “Lists invariably use their own bounce address in their own domain, so the SPF doesn’t match,” Levine said. “Lists generally modify messages via subject tags, body footers, attachment stripping, and other useful features that break the DKIM signature. So on even the most legitimate list mail like, say, the IETF’s, most of the mail fails the DMARC assertions, not due to the lists doing anything ‘wrong’.” .................................++- -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-break...
“Lists invariably use their own bounce address in their own domain, so the SPF doesn’t match,” Levine said. “Lists generally modify messages via subject tags, body footers, attachment stripping, and other useful features that break the DKIM signature. So on even the most legitimate list mail like, say, the IETF’s, most of the mail fails the DMARC assertions, not due to the lists doing anything ‘wrong’.”
The central problem is yahoo sets dmarc=fail p=reject, and google honors it, and yet many other mail providers don't. So it ends up being a silent failure that neither the sender to a mail list nor affected recipients easily can learn about or understand. If there is anything lists are doing wrong, they probably ought to inform or deny signup to anyone using such a mail service configured in this fashion. Only the mail list server has all the available information to predict this will be a problem. -- Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 18/04/2016 13:25, Chris Murphy ha scritto:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-break...
“Lists invariably use their own bounce address in their own domain, so the SPF doesn’t match,” Levine said. “Lists generally modify messages via subject tags, body footers, attachment stripping, and other useful features that break the DKIM signature. So on even the most legitimate list mail like, say, the IETF’s, most of the mail fails the DMARC assertions, not due to the lists doing anything ‘wrong’.”
The central problem is yahoo sets dmarc=fail p=reject, and google honors it, and yet many other mail providers don't. So it ends up being a silent failure that neither the sender to a mail list nor affected recipients easily can learn about or understand.
If there is anything lists are doing wrong, they probably ought to inform or deny signup to anyone using such a mail service configured in this fashion. Only the mail list server has all the available information to predict this will be a problem.
Ok now I'm on a new account/provider. I unsuscribed from my former yahoo.com.br account. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri opensuse Tumbleweed 64 bit - Kernel 4.5.0-3-default Gnome 3.20 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 18/04/2016 13:25, Chris Murphy ha scritto:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-break...
“Lists invariably use their own bounce address in their own domain, so the SPF doesn’t match,” Levine said. “Lists generally modify messages via subject tags, body footers, attachment stripping, and other useful features that break the DKIM signature. So on even the most legitimate list mail like, say, the IETF’s, most of the mail fails the DMARC assertions, not due to the lists doing anything ‘wrong’.”
The central problem is yahoo sets dmarc=fail p=reject, and google honors it, and yet many other mail providers don't. So it ends up being a silent failure that neither the sender to a mail list nor affected recipients easily can learn about or understand.
If there is anything lists are doing wrong, they probably ought to inform or deny signup to anyone using such a mail service configured in this fashion. Only the mail list server has all the available information to predict this will be a problem.
Ok now I'm on a new account/provider. I unsuscribed from my former yahoo.com.br account. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri opensuse Tumbleweed 64 bit - Kernel 4.5.0-3-default Gnome 3.20 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
participants (10)
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Carlos E. R. -
Chris Murphy -
Henne Vogelsang -
ianseeks -
James Knott -
Kyrill Detinov -
Marco Calistri -
Per Jessen -
poliglot -
Yamaban