All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees guillaumeg, ddemaio, dleuenberger, Sarah, rbrown, DocB, gp, deneb_alpha, bittin ## Leap * Waiting for Leap rebuild to finish, we're really behind on s390x and Arm. s390x has random hangs and jobs have to be killed on a daily basis in both OBS and IBS. We're literaly in rebuild hell for about 20 days. Highlight for Community in SLE 15 SP4 roadmap slides My thoughts: * Highlight appraisal for work on refreshed DE (latest KDE Plasma LTS, Updated Gnome etc), work on codecs * Raise https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71 [15.3 retro] overlap package between SLE and Backports which makes life of our contributors difficult (specially Neal) * Having some resources look at software.o.o. to make sure 15.4 packages there are well intergrated Cardano node do we have some existing crypto community that? https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/59 Leap Micro 5.2 - No update yet, aside from setup being done. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed * Kernel 5.16.2 is in Tumbleweed, 5.16.4, is in staging; QA of that prj should start today * Ruby 2.7 & 3.0 (incl all rubygems) have been removed from Tumbleweed. Everything is based on Ruby 3.1 now * Python 3.6 being EOL, removal of python36-FOO modules ongoing. Last week: 106 left, now 96 * systemd will drop suse specific sysv script handling as announced in https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/3... * RPM: the build root will switch from 'glibc-locale' to the much leaner glibc-locale-base (containing C and en_US). Packages that need other locales (some do for test suites) need to explicitly BuildRequire glibc-locale (can be done unconditionally) * Plasma 5.24 beta is staged; final release is planned for Feb 8; we try to be ready in time * GCC 12 pre-integration tests started (Staging:Gcc7); Scheduled for actual merge in April/May ## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) Submitted dozens of packages from devel:kubic to Factory - Devel maintainers, please dont let good stuff live in devel projects MicroOS Desktop issues with pipewire/pulseaudio being worked on, great job by the community debugging it, thanks all! Asked nicely a bunch of people to consider dropping Firefox from their HOME: Projects as it has a disproprotionate blocking effect on build.opensuse.org. ongoing experiments with with kiwi-less, container-first VM image building/adding nerdctl support to Toolbox/buildkit and its limits as a container builder/TW-to-MicroOS converter ## Max * Dropping python2 from Leap 15.4 https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/15: skippkg-finder is done https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/2686, the first verification run has been done, the attribute has been updated for that, see OSRT:Config at https://build.opensuse.org/attribs/openSUSE:Leap:15.4 , the next step is wait a new Leap build finish, poke the repodata, back to adjust the attribute, then skippkg-finder can catch up with it, repeat until uninstallable problem to be 0 * Still a bunch of submission are pending for legal review ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Race condition happened in ttm. This results in a mismatch between ISO images and FTP trees. This should be fixed now. * Upcoming GCC 12 tested for aarch64: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:dirkmueller:branches:openSUSE:F... * Tests of openSUSE Tumbleweed on The Pinebook Pro showed some issues. Most of them are now fixed. Tracked on https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194491 Leap 15.3: * Issue with installation media (net installation) for devices w/o Real-Time-Clock. Workaround: Trigger rebuild of installation media. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194660 lkocman: to update the bug with installmedia refresh. Leap 15.4: * opencl-headers package is outdated in Leap 15.4 / SLE15-SP4: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193617 This prevent armnn to build with opencl support enabled. => SR https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/944701 has been mirrored. => Release of maintenance incident is done 2022-01-27 * aarch64: * Go compiler from SLE still lacks ld.gold which is still required. This make some packages to fail to build (e.g. openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4/rclone). Bug opened since Leap 15.3: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183043 lkocman: we have currently only 8 jobs building in parallel on Leap 15.4/aarch64, is that expected? guillaume: that seems to be the case, yes * armv7: * armv7 images are not tested in openQA yet, because JeOS-efi image does not build properly due to an armv7 kernel bug with btrfs and lzo compression: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193852 ## Sarah - s390x Tumbleweed: * Reboot does not work: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193889 (forwarded to IBM for all Linux distributions on s390x) Bugfix from IBM is breaking SLES, Leap and Tumbleweed builds: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896 Ihno will forward a dump because issue is forwarded to compiler level Adrian: workers will be deployed with image that has necessary debuginfo ## Doug * Dyad (software.o.o.) proposal - Sent to stakeholder leads * openSUSE Conference * Contract signed and turned into Z-Bau * video team has expressed * developed list of keynotes to reachout to lkocman: What about the travel support for community speakers? Gerald: this should work on https://tsp.opensuse.org/ * FOSDEM this weekend #opensuse-stand:fosdem.org * Google Summer of Code * Will submit application for two projects - Feb. 7 to 21 (deadline) * Leap 15.4 * Starting to create release annoucement ## Dirk worked on rebuild trigger script issues for 15.3:ARM and 15.4:ARM Watched GCC 12 fallout on aarch64, some fixes Helped a bit on python 3.10 fallout in tumbleweed ## Gerald / Board [This space intentionally left blank] ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Not available ## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u)) - Marina: opencl-headers released on 2022-01-27 - Marina: back on https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71 what about shipping those packages via SLE-Module-Packagehub-Subpackages (the SLE side of PackageHub)? From maintenance we can have a better overview and avoid breakages. - Marcus: 15.3 had a radeon regression in the kernel update, followup update soon - we released big samba update to fix security issues, one regression in samba spotted - Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, some updates will go in testing occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet - Marcus was promoted to Distinguished Engineer, likely openSUSE Maintenance might stay in responsibilities. ## Adrian - OBS Rudi is fighting with host kernel issues in IBS. There are quite some issues with the SP4 kernel.