[opensuse-factory] Suggestion: website feed for breaking changes in Tumbleweed?
From time to time, it's necessary for breaking changes to be made to Tumbleweed, as well as other cases where broken updates slip through the cracks of openQA.
Would it be a good idea to set up a feed on the openSUSE website where notices of upcoming breakages and urgent fixes are provided? This would be somewhat similar to the homepage of the Arch Linux website. There is already the opensuse-factory mailing list, however, as a relatively high volume list with a fair amount of unrelated discussions (e.g. systemd v.s. other utilities), it's easy for important issues to be missed. Having said that, this would require someone responsible for managing the website and ensuring that the information on there is updated in a timely manner. Any comments would be appreciated. Also, not quite related, but does anyone know who decides when the TW emergency update repo is used? -- - Karl Cheng (Qantas94Heavy) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 04.03.2017 um 12:23 schrieb Karl Cheng: [...]
Would it be a good idea to set up a feed on the openSUSE website where notices of upcoming breakages and urgent fixes are provided?
[...] For me it would be sufficient if urgent security updates would be announced in this mailing list and provided independently of Tumbleweed snapshots or at least appropriately marked in "Packages changed". e.g. [opensuse-factory] Security update Tumbleweed YYYYMMDD It would make it easier delaying applying regular snapshots if necessary. cu Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 12:49:20PM +0100, Peter Mc Donough wrote:
Am 04.03.2017 um 12:23 schrieb Karl Cheng: [...]
Would it be a good idea to set up a feed on the openSUSE website where notices of upcoming breakages and urgent fixes are provided?
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For me it would be sufficient if urgent security updates would be announced in this mailing list and provided independently of Tumbleweed snapshots or at least appropriately marked in "Packages changed".
e.g. [opensuse-factory] Security update Tumbleweed YYYYMMDD
It would make it easier delaying applying regular snapshots if necessary.
Security updates come with the rolling system. The rolling system is supposed to be delivering stability, and if that does not always work, it must be improved and not worked around. And we have a security update bypass functionality, but this is only for really critical updates. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 04.03.2017 um 13:05 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 12:49:20PM +0100, Peter Mc Donough wrote:
Am 04.03.2017 um 12:23 schrieb Karl Cheng: [...]
Would it be a good idea to set up a feed on the openSUSE website where notices of upcoming breakages and urgent fixes are provided?
[...]
For me it would be sufficient if urgent security updates would be announced in this mailing list and provided independently of Tumbleweed snapshots or at least appropriately marked in "Packages changed".
e.g. [opensuse-factory] Security update Tumbleweed YYYYMMDD
It would make it easier delaying applying regular snapshots if necessary.
Security updates come with the rolling system.
The rolling system is supposed to be delivering stability, and if that does not always work, it must be improved and not worked around.
It is a rolling release but the with the line "Please check the known defects of this snapshot before upgrading:" leads to delay applying snapshots when the system has to work, which might effect security. cu Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 04.03.2017 12:23, Karl Cheng wrote:
From time to time, it's necessary for breaking changes to be made to Tumbleweed, as well as other cases where broken updates slip through the cracks of openQA.
Would it be a good idea to set up a feed on the openSUSE website where notices of upcoming breakages and urgent fixes are provided?
This would be somewhat similar to the homepage of the Arch Linux website.
I agree, the factory mailing list can become quite active, so announcements for breaking changes can be missed or buried deep down a mail chain. For this reason, I like the idea of announcing these changes or caveats on a seperate channel. The most sensible thing would be I think to integrate this in the upgrade process directly (zypper or packagekit?), however I don't know if this is technically possible or feasable... Greetings Fabian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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