Re: [opensuse-factory] More Dependency frustration! (RANT)

Hi again Larry
This sort of thing seems to be a common issue with YDL though I've not tried a recent release.
It's a Blue and White G3 'new world' from late '99, 450MHz PPC cpu. I got a pair of 256M PC100 memory sticks on ebay and now it has 512M, that helps a lot.
Added as http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_on_G3_iMac_%28ppc%29 - needs some tidying up as so far it's not much more than a cut 'n' paste from my personal pages...
G3/450 is great with 512M RAM. I managed to install 10.2 (I think it was) on a Toshiba laptop with 144M RAM and a P100 CPU, but it was very painful. The key is to create a swap file in advance and manually activate it ASAP. I may try again with 11.0 on that machine which now has Damn Small Linux on it (and fairly usable too). I'm off now to test 11.0 RC1, as the download has finally completed... -- Cheers Richard. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Richard (MQ) <osl2008@googlemail.com> wrote:
This sort of thing seems to be a common issue with YDL though I've not tried a recent release.
Well, for some reason the installer would see the adaptec SCSI card(the stock Mac SCSI is 10 or 5 MB/s and the adaptec was 40) and install just fine. But when you booted the installed system, it would panic because it wasn't loading the module. No one could offer anything more than "build a kernel". I just gave up and set it aside. Of course, it was a 7500 with a 601/100 and 80MB RAM, so it wasn't any speed demon. I actually Beta tested openSUSE v10.0 on that machine. Finally got a G3/400 for it after it was released.
I got one(bad motherboard tho :-( .....). My 9600 has a G4/700 and 1GB RAM.
G3/450 is great with 512M RAM.
Problem with the G3 is that it doesn't playback XviDs. I had a G3/466 in my son's Wallstreet but sold it so I can get a G4/500 for it. My G3-AIO has a G4/450 clocked at 533 right now, and it does pretty good with most stuff.
Yeah. I had to start the 6500 into the rescue system and partition the disk with a swap drive and then restart into the installer. Worst part was that I couldn't find the L2 cache chip until after the install was done. Only thing that didn't work was the sound only plays through the headphone jack(no idea why....which sucks because the builtin subwoofer is really nice), none of my PCI SCSI cards would work, and my Comm Slot II ethernet cards wouldn't keep a connection. All the X desktops worked just fine that I tried though, and it got online just fine with a PCI ethernet card. Heck, I even got 10MB/s off of a USB key connected to a PCI USB2 card I stuck in it. SCP speed was hrorrible. I have an old copy of SuSE v8.1 that I had installed on my Thinkpad 560e(P166MMX, 48MB RAM). It finally broke though. Worked great. Doubt I would try 11.0 on that P100. Text mode maybe. It's slow enough on my son's Wallstrett with the G3/266 and 384MB RAM under KDE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Richard (MQ) <osl2008@googlemail.com> wrote:
This sort of thing seems to be a common issue with YDL though I've not tried a recent release.
Well, for some reason the installer would see the adaptec SCSI card(the stock Mac SCSI is 10 or 5 MB/s and the adaptec was 40) and install just fine. But when you booted the installed system, it would panic because it wasn't loading the module. No one could offer anything more than "build a kernel". I just gave up and set it aside. Of course, it was a 7500 with a 601/100 and 80MB RAM, so it wasn't any speed demon. I actually Beta tested openSUSE v10.0 on that machine. Finally got a G3/400 for it after it was released.
I got one(bad motherboard tho :-( .....). My 9600 has a G4/700 and 1GB RAM.
G3/450 is great with 512M RAM.
Problem with the G3 is that it doesn't playback XviDs. I had a G3/466 in my son's Wallstreet but sold it so I can get a G4/500 for it. My G3-AIO has a G4/450 clocked at 533 right now, and it does pretty good with most stuff.
Yeah. I had to start the 6500 into the rescue system and partition the disk with a swap drive and then restart into the installer. Worst part was that I couldn't find the L2 cache chip until after the install was done. Only thing that didn't work was the sound only plays through the headphone jack(no idea why....which sucks because the builtin subwoofer is really nice), none of my PCI SCSI cards would work, and my Comm Slot II ethernet cards wouldn't keep a connection. All the X desktops worked just fine that I tried though, and it got online just fine with a PCI ethernet card. Heck, I even got 10MB/s off of a USB key connected to a PCI USB2 card I stuck in it. SCP speed was hrorrible. I have an old copy of SuSE v8.1 that I had installed on my Thinkpad 560e(P166MMX, 48MB RAM). It finally broke though. Worked great. Doubt I would try 11.0 on that P100. Text mode maybe. It's slow enough on my son's Wallstrett with the G3/266 and 384MB RAM under KDE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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