Size of the 6 CD version
How large will the 6 CD version be in total? I asume (hope) that the 6th CD is in the same layout as the other 5. The reason I am wondering about the above two, is so that people can use makeSUSEdvd (or any other means) and burn a DVD from either CD1-6 or from the downloadable DVD + CD 6. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
How large will the 6 CD version be in total?
less than 6 times 700 MB.
The 6th CD will be a so called "add-on" CD and those details are currently worked out. I doubt you can add it easily to the other 5 CDs, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:17:35PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Ok, so they should fit on one DVD.
What would be the problem by having a layout like CD 3, 4 or 5? e.g. CD3-5 has one directory media.X, several small files and one directory suse with all the rpm's. OK. CD 1 and 2 are different as they are bootable. Even if CD6 has a seperate named directory like EXTRA with all the stuff in it, instead of suse, that should be enough to get it on a DVD iso. Or some in suse and some in EXTRA so create_package_descr works. Please consider this when making the ISO. Thanks. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
We have the challenge that during a normal "OSS" installation, no non-OSS software should get installed. Doing it with the AddOn CD allows this in the best way. With your suggestion, we would have to add the metadata of the non-OSS packages to CD1.
Let us play with this a bit... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 02:41:20PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I understand this and agree completely. I am talking about CD 6 and especially how the directory tree and such is going to be and if it is just data (like on CD3-5) or if there is going to be something different with that CD/
With your suggestion, we would have to add the metadata of the non-OSS packages to CD1.
No need for that. makeSUSEdvd uses create_package_descr to make its own metadata.
Please consider this when making the ISO. Thanks.
Let us play with this a bit...
Sure. I played around as well a bit. :-) The following I did with 10.0 CD set, because they are not Beta. I have several rpm's in a directory in the following structure: . `-- suse |-- i386 |-- i586 |-- i686 `-- noarch In . I just placed a file `content`, because makeSUSEdvd uses it to check if it is a SUSE iso. Next a `mkisofs -r -J -l -o SUSE.iso dir/` to make the ISO. Then a makeSUSEdvd and a testinstall. The result is that I can install makeSUSEdvd during the installation already, as well as any other RPM I had put in that directory. So _if_ the layout of CD6 is the same, then there should be no problem. I can imagine there could be some extra directories, but that should not really be a problem. I have even added some extra files AND a repodata in a second test and no problem there. Also just using CD1 and my own CD works great. Mmm. An extra addition to makeSUSEdvd in the coming. Add a directory with RPM's to be included in your own DVD. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
The non-OSS CD will have its own media.1 directory and therefore another CD1 - not like CD3-5.
The layout is the same - just it has metadata on it.
I have even added some extra files AND a repodata in a second test and no problem there. Also just using CD1 and my own CD works great.
Ok, I'll try to give you something to test soon ;-)
Mmm. An extra addition to makeSUSEdvd in the coming. Add a directory with RPM's to be included in your own DVD.
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 09:04:40PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Obviously. <snip>
The layout is the same - just it has metadata on it.
OK. Great news (and a relief for me)
Would be nice. That way I could test and have the script updated if needed. As it sounds now, it should work. It could be that I need to change the part so it makes its own media.1 instead of borrowing it. Thanks for the feedback. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:34:20AM +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Well, no testing needed then. If it works in theory, it works. :-) I have edited the file to make a new media.1/media file. At this moment I am working on it to make it possible to add a directory of RPM files to suse/, like e.g. /usr/src/packages/RPMS/* So when you have RPM files (MPlayer or libdvd anybody), you can still make one DVD very easily. Download any iso('s), be it CD or DVD. Run it with the -a option and you can install them already in the beginning. Nice if you want to install on several machines or give away iso's. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, houghi wrote:
Thanks, I think this will really help/assist with the advance of SUSE Linux and the OpenSuSE project. Are the changes going to be available for the next beta5? Or are they going to have to wait to the RC's? -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 04:59:01PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
Are the changes going to be available for the next beta5? Or are they going to have to wait to the RC's?
The makeSUSEdvd with the above additions is now online. Editing the webpage will be done another time. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
How large will the 6 CD version be in total?
less than 6 times 700 MB.
The 6th CD will be a so called "add-on" CD and those details are currently worked out. I doubt you can add it easily to the other 5 CDs, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:17:35PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Ok, so they should fit on one DVD.
What would be the problem by having a layout like CD 3, 4 or 5? e.g. CD3-5 has one directory media.X, several small files and one directory suse with all the rpm's. OK. CD 1 and 2 are different as they are bootable. Even if CD6 has a seperate named directory like EXTRA with all the stuff in it, instead of suse, that should be enough to get it on a DVD iso. Or some in suse and some in EXTRA so create_package_descr works. Please consider this when making the ISO. Thanks. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
We have the challenge that during a normal "OSS" installation, no non-OSS software should get installed. Doing it with the AddOn CD allows this in the best way. With your suggestion, we would have to add the metadata of the non-OSS packages to CD1.
Let us play with this a bit... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 02:41:20PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I understand this and agree completely. I am talking about CD 6 and especially how the directory tree and such is going to be and if it is just data (like on CD3-5) or if there is going to be something different with that CD/
With your suggestion, we would have to add the metadata of the non-OSS packages to CD1.
No need for that. makeSUSEdvd uses create_package_descr to make its own metadata.
Please consider this when making the ISO. Thanks.
Let us play with this a bit...
Sure. I played around as well a bit. :-) The following I did with 10.0 CD set, because they are not Beta. I have several rpm's in a directory in the following structure: . `-- suse |-- i386 |-- i586 |-- i686 `-- noarch In . I just placed a file `content`, because makeSUSEdvd uses it to check if it is a SUSE iso. Next a `mkisofs -r -J -l -o SUSE.iso dir/` to make the ISO. Then a makeSUSEdvd and a testinstall. The result is that I can install makeSUSEdvd during the installation already, as well as any other RPM I had put in that directory. So _if_ the layout of CD6 is the same, then there should be no problem. I can imagine there could be some extra directories, but that should not really be a problem. I have even added some extra files AND a repodata in a second test and no problem there. Also just using CD1 and my own CD works great. Mmm. An extra addition to makeSUSEdvd in the coming. Add a directory with RPM's to be included in your own DVD. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
The non-OSS CD will have its own media.1 directory and therefore another CD1 - not like CD3-5.
The layout is the same - just it has metadata on it.
I have even added some extra files AND a repodata in a second test and no problem there. Also just using CD1 and my own CD works great.
Ok, I'll try to give you something to test soon ;-)
Mmm. An extra addition to makeSUSEdvd in the coming. Add a directory with RPM's to be included in your own DVD.
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 09:04:40PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Obviously. <snip>
The layout is the same - just it has metadata on it.
OK. Great news (and a relief for me)
Would be nice. That way I could test and have the script updated if needed. As it sounds now, it should work. It could be that I need to change the part so it makes its own media.1 instead of borrowing it. Thanks for the feedback. houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau
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