[opensuse-factory] Gstreamer*0.10* for sale!
More than 3 years ago upstream said enough is enough and pulled the plug on gst-0_10 branch, and ever since then we the gnome-maintainers have been carrying around the abandoned packages, both because we care and at the time of upstreams kill-off point we had a lot of packages depending on them. Since then we have quietly been porting the ones we care about or dropping them from Tumbleweed. We have however now reached a point where we can not in good conscious say that we care for gst-0_10 at all anymore, and would as a result offer up maintainership of said packages for those that still depend on them / want them to stay in Tumbleweed. Currently osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64 gives this list [see end of email] of depending packages. If you as a maintainer are affected, please consider stepping up and requesting maintainer via obs or email. The above said, maintenance burden is not very high currently, so don't fear taking responsibility, it mainly consists of tweaking packages to ensure their continued build. As a maintainer though I'd prefer that we could drop gst-0_10 from TW all the way, but acknowledge that this is not currently possible, but if everyone who have packages still depend on gst-0_10* do a real push to port or drop packages still dependent we could perhaps take the easy route out and just drop gstreamer-0_10. //Bjørn - on behalf of openSUSE GNOME maintainers. LIST: osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64 gstreamer-0_10 : aegisub audacity boinc-client codelite e17 e_dbus echievements elementary elemines emotion-generic-players enlightenment eperiodique epymc erlang espeakedit etrophy evas-generic-loaders filezilla fityk flamerobin freqtweak gcompris gnuplot gnuradio gstreamer-0_10-plugin-crystalhd gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly hugin ignuit kde3-amarok kde3-kaffeine kdemultimedia3 kicad lekha libucil mathgl meson moodbar morituri perl-Alien-wxWidgets perl-Wx pgadmin3 plplot poedit presage psi+-plugins-psimediaplugin python-efl python-gstreamer-0_10 python-matplotlib python-wxWidgets python-wxWidgets-3_0 rage sffview shellementary terminology tintii urbanlightscape usbprog wammu wxGTK3-3_0 wxMaxima wxWidgets wxWidgets-3_0 wxWidgets-ansi wxWidgets-wxcontainer wxWidgets-wxcontainer24c wxhexeditor xchm xfce4-mixer xfce4-volumed xylib -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Bjørn Lie
More than 3 years ago upstream said enough is enough and pulled the [...] LIST:
osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64 gstreamer-0_10 :
aegisub audacity boinc-client
photographers might be concerned, re: AfterShotPro requires libgstreamer-0_10-0 DisplayCAL requires python-wxWidgets-3_0 tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
I'll revisit this one. For a "refresh" if needed, please visit this thread https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-05/msg00081.html Since the original mail-thread got us no one stepping up wanting to take over the future maintenance of gst-010, I'll now file delete requests for these packages in Tumbleweed. Note that the packages could stay, but someone needs to take ownership of them.
From most the feed-back I got last, the impression I had was that not much should still rely on gst-010, so lets see how removal will work in a staging.
/Bjørn -- Zaitor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mittwoch, 7. September 2016 13:10:31 CEST Bjørn Lie wrote:
I'll revisit this one.
For a "refresh" if needed, please visit this thread https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-05/msg00081.html
Since the original mail-thread got us no one stepping up wanting to take over the future maintenance of gst-010, I'll now file delete requests for these packages in Tumbleweed. Note that the packages could stay, but someone needs to take ownership of them.
From most the feed-back I got last, the impression I had was that not much should still rely on gst-010, so lets see how removal will work in a staging.
/Bjørn -- Zaitor.
I know at least one package which very indirectly depends on gst 0.10 - kicad. Although kicad does not depend on any multimedia stuff, it depends on wxPython, namely the wxGTK 2.7.something variant. Although wxGTK itself is split, wxPython is monolithic, i.e. wxPython pulls in *all* of wxGTK. Kind regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mittwoch, 7. September 2016 14:19:24 CEST Brüns, Stefan wrote:
On Mittwoch, 7. September 2016 13:10:31 CEST Bjørn Lie wrote:
I'll revisit this one.
For a "refresh" if needed, please visit this thread https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-05/msg00081.html
Since the original mail-thread got us no one stepping up wanting to take over the future maintenance of gst-010, I'll now file delete requests for these packages in Tumbleweed. Note that the packages could stay, but someone needs to take ownership of them.
From most the feed-back I got last, the impression I had was that not much should still rely on gst-010, so lets see how removal will work in a staging.
/Bjørn -- Zaitor.
I know at least one package which very indirectly depends on gst 0.10 - kicad.
Although kicad does not depend on any multimedia stuff, it depends on wxPython, namely the wxGTK 2.7.something variant. Although wxGTK itself is split, wxPython is monolithic, i.e. wxPython pulls in *all* of wxGTK.
Slight error, kicad uses wxWidgets 3.0 now, but that still depends on gstreamer 0.10: https://build.opensuse.org/package/binary/openSUSE:Factory/wxWidgets-3_0? arch=x86_64&filename=libwx_gtk2u_media- suse1-3.0.2-6.3.x86_64.rpm&repository=standard Now, there seems to be a patch for GStreamer 1.0 support in the WX bugtracker: http://trac.wxwidgets.org/ticket/14976#comment:22 Have not tried ... Kind regards, Stefan-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
I'll revisit this one.
For a "refresh" if needed, please visit this thread https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-05/msg00081.html
Since the original mail-thread got us no one stepping up wanting to take over the future maintenance of gst-010, I'll now file delete requests for these packages in Tumbleweed. Note that the packages could stay, but someone needs to take ownership of them.
From most the feed-back I got last, the impression I had was that not much should still rely on gst-010, so lets see how removal will work in a staging.
/Bjørn -- Zaitor. I see that somebody is already marked as maintainer of multimedia:libs/gstreamer-0_10 so the package can remain until nothing depends on it. Look under the users tab. It's not necessary to delete
On 07/09/2016 13:10, Bjørn Lie wrote: the packages until they're no longer needed and simply waste space. Regards Dave Plater -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
on., 07.09.2016 kl. 20.32 +0200, skrev Dave Plater:
I see that somebody is already marked as maintainer of multimedia:libs/gstreamer-0_10 so the package can remain until nothing depends on it. Look under the users tab. It's not necessary to delete the packages until they're no longer needed.
Yes Atri kindly stepped up less than an hour ago, so he will now be main maintainer for the gst-010 packages. I still encourage everyone to port their packages still depending on this gstreamer branch. /Bjørn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 06, Bjørn Lie wrote:
osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64
This command is buggy or its purpose is something else. The list is more like this, with some false matches because some packages work with newer gstreamer as well: digikam ekiga gst-dsp gst-omapfb gstreamer-0_10-plugin-crystalhd gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly kdemultimedia3 libqt4 libucil moodbar morituri opencv pidgin psi+-plugins-psimediaplugin python-gstreamer-0_10 wxWidgets wxWidgets-3_0 Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
fr., 06.05.2016 kl. 15.52 +0200, skrev Olaf Hering:
On Fri, May 06, Bjørn Lie wrote:
osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64
This command is buggy or its purpose is something else. The list is more like this, with some false matches because some packages work with newer gstreamer as well:
ekiga pidgin Olaf
ekiga and pidgin do not depend on gst-0_10, so we can at least count those as false matches. I'll be more than happy to file delete requests for the gst-0_10 packages, and get a staging to see for real if anything on the dvd still needs it. //Bjørn Ekiga: - Add macro to allow disabling gstreamer 0.10 dependency and disable it by default (ekiga is pulling gstreamer 1.0 internally) Pidgin: - Remove pidgin-port-to-gst-1.0.patch: added upstream. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/06/2016 11:22 PM, Olaf Hering wrote:
On Fri, May 06, Bjørn Lie wrote:
osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64
This command is buggy or its purpose is something else. The list is more like this, with some false matches because some packages work with newer gstreamer as well:
digikam ekiga gst-dsp gst-omapfb gstreamer-0_10-plugin-crystalhd gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly kdemultimedia3 libqt4 libucil moodbar morituri opencv pidgin psi+-plugins-psimediaplugin python-gstreamer-0_10 wxWidgets wxWidgets-3_0
Olaf
This list looks better, The first contained a bunch of enlightenment related apps and libs which should all be using gstreamer 1. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adeliade Australia, UTC+9:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
On samedi, 7 mai 2016 17.04:45 h CEST Simon Lees wrote:
On 05/06/2016 11:22 PM, Olaf Hering wrote:
On Fri, May 06, Bjørn Lie wrote:
osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64
This command is buggy or its purpose is something else. The list is more like this, with some false matches because some packages work with newer gstreamer as well:
digikam ekiga gst-dsp gst-omapfb gstreamer-0_10-plugin-crystalhd gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly kdemultimedia3 libqt4 libucil moodbar morituri opencv pidgin psi+-plugins-psimediaplugin python-gstreamer-0_10 wxWidgets wxWidgets-3_0
Olaf
This list looks better, The first contained a bunch of enlightenment related apps and libs which should all be using gstreamer 1.
Concerning wxWidgets3x the 3.1.0 version from 29 Feb has this notice in changelog - Support gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0 in wxMediaCtrl There's unfortunately some breakage comparing to 3.0x ;-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Olaf Hering
On Fri, May 06, Bjørn Lie wrote:
osc whatdependson openSUSE:Factory gstreamer-0_10 standard x86_64
This command is buggy or its purpose is something else. The list is more like this, with some false matches because some packages work with newer gstreamer as well:
digikam ekiga gst-dsp gst-omapfb gstreamer-0_10-plugin-crystalhd gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-gl gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly kdemultimedia3 libqt4 libucil moodbar morituri opencv pidgin psi+-plugins-psimediaplugin python-gstreamer-0_10 wxWidgets wxWidgets-3_0
It looks like digikam and opencv only use gstreamer 0.10 on openSUSE <= 13.1. libqt4 looks like it only needs gstreamer at all when phonon is built in-tree, which we doesn't appear to do by default. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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