Good morning, Please point me in the right direction if this message was not posted to the appropriate mailing list. We are currently updating and improving the openSUSE user documentation and there is something that I would like clarified, as the question often occurs on the support platforms. The page https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/tumbleweed states: """ Please be aware of the following limitations of the live images. They should not be used to install or upgrade Tumbleweed. Please use the Tumbleweed media instead. They have a limited package and driver selection, so cannot be considered an accurate reflection as to whether Tumbleweed will work on your hardware or not """ My question is two-fold: - Is the fact that "the live images have limited package and driver selection" the (main) reason why they should not be used to install Tumbleweed? - If so, are there *other important reasons* worth mentioning to motivate users not to install from live images? If not, what are the *main reasons*? Thanks, Adrien
Moin, Am Mittwoch, 16. Dezember 2020, 11:23:09 CET schrieb Adrien Glauser:
Good morning,
Please point me in the right direction if this message was not posted to the appropriate mailing list.
We are currently updating and improving the openSUSE user documentation and there is something that I would like clarified, as the question often occurs on the support platforms. The page https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/tumbleweed states:
""" Please be aware of the following limitations of the live images. They should not be used to install or upgrade Tumbleweed. Please use the Tumbleweed media instead. They have a limited package and driver selection, so cannot be considered an accurate reflection as to whether Tumbleweed will work on your hardware or not """ My question is two-fold: - Is the fact that "the live images have limited package and driver selection" the (main) reason why they should not be used to install Tumbleweed?
No, the package and driver selection only affect the runtime, not the installation. So as long as it boots, it's fine. The "driver" part is arguably wrong though - only some exotic firmware is deleted. Kernel modules are all there, excluding third-party drivers.
- If so, are there *other important reasons* worth mentioning to motivate users not to install from live images? If not, what are the *main reasons*?
While the installation is supposed to produce identical results to the NET iso, there are only a few openQA tests and so it might not work for everyone at all times. The environment is sufficiently different that there can be bugs specific to the live installation. Cheers, Fabian
Thanks,
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Dear Fabian, A much apprecatiated answer! So the bottom line is: the LiveCD enjoys fewer QA tests than other installation media (NET iso, DVD image), so much so that the user runs the risk of having bugs during the installation process (called from the context of the LiveCD)? Best, Adrien
Moin, Am Mittwoch, 16. Dezember 2020, 11:51:44 CET schrieb Adrien Glauser:
Dear Fabian,
A much apprecatiated answer! So the bottom line is: the LiveCD enjoys fewer QA tests than other installation media (NET iso, DVD image), so much so that the user runs the risk of having bugs during the installation process (called from the context of the LiveCD)?
Exactly. I'm fairly confident that it works just fine in most cases, but there's just no guarantee. Cheers, Fabian
Best,
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On 16/12/2020 11.51, Adrien Glauser wrote:
Dear Fabian,
A much apprecatiated answer! So the bottom line is: the LiveCD enjoys fewer QA tests than other installation media (NET iso, DVD image), so much so that the user runs the risk of having bugs during the installation process (called from the context of the LiveCD)?
There is also some small possibility that the CD fails to run on some machine, while a full install of TW would run fine. But the CD is often used to estimate if a distribution runs on a certain machine or not. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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