On Thu, 2016-04-28 at 19:55 +0200, André Verwijs wrote:

Besides this, openQA has detected that using the Live Images to

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install a system does not work [1]: initrd is not being written and added to the bootoader config. Neither DVD nor NET installer are facing this problem, so I am still considering releasing this snapshot. We surely hope that this will be only a short time where the LIVE Medias are not installable.   what effect will this have on existing factory systems..?? do i need to make backups before upgrading..?

You should *ALWAYS* make backups, irrespective of Tumbleweed upgrades. But that's besides the point. The only issue identified is getting the new live image, putting it on CD/USB and installing a fresh system from this. All other cases, including a regular "zypper dup" from within the system, is not known to cause any issues. Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/28/2016 06:20 PM, Chan Ju Ping wrote:

On Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:48:49 CDT Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar [04-28-16 12:46]:

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Hi fellow geekos,

As I already announced in my last weekly review [0], the next snapshot (0422) will be HUGE. With the update of glibc to version 2.23, we bootstrapped the entire distro again to ensure everything is really built up proper again - which results in new binaries all over the place.

Besides this, openQA has detected that using the Live Images to install a system does not work [1]: initrd is not being written and added to the bootoader config. Neither DVD nor NET installer are facing this problem, so I am still considering releasing this snapshot. We surely hope that this will be only a short time where the LIVE Medias are not installable.

If you think this is the wrong move and the 0422 snapshot should NOT be released, then speak up! I have to give openQA a manual go anyway and I'll hold this back until Thu, April 28 22:00 UTC - so i ask YOU, the community, if this release is acceptable to you or not.

Works for me. I say release it. Updating/upgrading installed systems will not notice a problem with "live" images.

release it.

I vote for releasing it as well. That's what Snapshots are for!

Looking forward to the new snapshot. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2016-04-28 at 16:11 -0700, emanuel wrote:

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If you think this is the wrong move and the 0422 snapshot should NOT be released, then speak up! I have to give openQA a manual go anyway and I'll hold this back until Thu, April 28 22:00 UTC - so i ask YOU, the community, if this release is acceptable to you or not.

Cheers, Dominique

[0] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-04/msg00447.ht ml [1] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977656

Release it!! If someone wants stable they have many other options.

Don't mis-understand this: if the TW snapshot was known to not be stable (to the degree we can test it with openQA), it would NOT be released. This current issue is ONLY related to installing a new setup using the LIVE images. As said, DVD and NET installers work perfect; so do existing systems that are upgraded using zypper dup. But the discussion is moot by now: the Snapshot had been released already during the night. Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/02/2016 04:50 PM, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:

Dne čtvrtek 28. dubna 2016 17:36:29 CEST, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar napsal(a):

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Hi fellow geekos,

As I already announced in my last weekly review [0], the next snapshot (0422) will be HUGE. With the update of glibc to version 2.23, we bootstrapped the entire distro again to ensure everything is really built up proper again - which results in new binaries all over the place.

Besides this, openQA has detected that using the Live Images to install a system does not work [1]: initrd is not being written and added to the bootoader config. Neither DVD nor NET installer are facing this problem, so I am still considering releasing this snapshot. We surely hope that this will be only a short time where the LIVE Medias are not installable.

If you think this is the wrong move and the 0422 snapshot should NOT be released, then speak up! I have to give openQA a manual go anyway and I'll hold this back until Thu, April 28 22:00 UTC - so i ask YOU, the community, if this release is acceptable to you or not.

Cheers, Dominique

[0] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-04/msg00447.html [1] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977656

I thought there should be also newest KDE (Plasma 5.6, apps 16.04, including newest PIM - whatever are the chaotic version numbers), but I still see Qt 5.5 and KDE apps (including PIM) 15.12. The upgrade took ~8000 packages and have current snapshot. Am I missing something?

Most of the updates were just because all the packages were rebuilt Qt 5.6 is still held in staging due to the installer focus bug in openQA (Discussed multiple times here already) -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adeliade Australia, UTC+9:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B