[opensuse-factory] LXDE users: talk about changes in the default software stack
Hi. I'd like to propose some changes in the default LXDE pattern and default config in order to reduce dependencies, reduce memory footprint and improve user experience. I'd like to read the opinion of other LXDE users before doing anything because we are a community. - Replace MuPDF with Atril: Atril supports more file formats and it has a more friendly interface. AFAIK, it's the only GTK reader with ePub support. It has very few dependencies. - Replace Totem with VLC: VLC is a well known multiplatform media player. You only have to install vlc-codecs to play any media file. It has no desktop dependencies. - Remove grilo-plugins: Not sure here, but I think that grilo is installed mostly to be used with Totem. Feedback is wellcome. - Remove GMixer: We could just use the Volumen Control plug-in of LXPanel. Removal of GMixer saves 40+ MiB. - Add lxpanel-plugin-power-manager: For easy access to brightness and battery settings. - Replace Empathy with Pidgin: I'm not a IM user, but I have used Pidgin in the past and it was nice and light. This will remove gnome-contacts too, reducing GNOME dependency. It has minimal dependencies. - Remove gnome-online-accounts: This will remove telepathy-mission-control-plugin-goa and saves some MiB of memory. I don't know what triggers the installation of this package. - Do not suggest libreoffice-gnome for x86_64: The installation nof libreoffice-gnome triggers the installation of a lot of dependencies. Abiword can be enough and you always can install LibreOffice later if you want to. - Replace Firefox with Midori: Even though I personally use Firefox in my netbook, Midori load pages faster and uses less CPU and memory. So I think that having it as the default browser could be nice. If necessary, zeitgeist could be made optional to save resources. - Do not suggest moonlight-plugin: Isn't it an abandoned project? - Do not start automatically Network (nm-applet) with the session: NetworkManager is disabled by default and the applet is using 32+ MiB to do nothing. Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/27/2015 06:43 AM, jcsl wrote:
- Replace Firefox with Midori:
You had me 'til here. We maintain a lot of integration points with firefox (desktop integration add-ons, PackageKit addon), and actual staff maintaining & packaging firefox. Firefox should be our primary & default browser on every DE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 11:23 -0700, James Mason wrote:
On 03/27/2015 06:43 AM, jcsl wrote:
- Replace Firefox with Midori:
You had me 'til here. We maintain a lot of integration points with firefox (desktop integration add-ons, PackageKit addon), and actual staff maintaining & packaging firefox.
Firefox should be our primary & default browser on every DE.
James,
I'm not sure I follow the argumentation here: because we have staff
working on one but not the other we have to promote this in a more
prominent place?
The question to decide which is the default browser in any particular
DE has to have a bit more reason than just that)
LXDE has a clear target to be lightweight.
Dominique
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Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:23, James Mason wrote:
On 03/27/2015 06:43 AM, jcsl wrote:
- Replace Firefox with Midori:
You had me 'til here. We maintain a lot of integration points with firefox (desktop integration add-ons, PackageKit addon), and actual staff maintaining & packaging firefox.
Firefox should be our primary & default browser on every DE.
Until the "we-ape-chrome" desater from the UI-devs, I would say the same, but now? Resource usage of Firefox is way up from, say, version 24 to 36. And preformance is down, starttime is up, time for new tab is up. On small, limited machines, -- What LXDE is designed for -- Firefox is no longer the "prime" choice of web-browser. If you have a more hefty machine, use XFCE, but those that want a "modern" DE and do not have the resources for more, should be a good hint for a browser that does not waste what little they have. As Midori offers ad-blocking, most of the hinderings for me are gone. http://midori-browser.org/faqs/ - Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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