Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
Missing Xen: Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates The last line in that table, "Other Operating System support on top of Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now. XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of 2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple physical servers. What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation, configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations. If this features is possible to include, I think it will further power openSUSE 10.2 ? Regards, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Missing Xen:
Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates
Xen will be improved as usual.
The last line in that table, "Other Operating System support on top of Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now.
XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of 2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple physical servers.
What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation, configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations.
We have some improvements in this area already in our current tree but I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind. Please look at Alpha4 and give some more details.
If this features is possible to include, I think it will further power openSUSE 10.2 ?
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger skrev:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Missing Xen:
Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates
Xen will be improved as usual.
Nice to hear ;)
The last line in that table, "Other Operating System support on top of Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now.
XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of 2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple physical servers.
What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation, configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations.
We have some improvements in this area already in our current tree but I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind. Please look at Alpha4 and give some more details.
Do I then need to download and install the whole Alpha4 openSUSE distro, or is it possible (enough) to upgrade the Xen related packages included possibly YaST2 packages on the current openSUSE 10.1 release? Possibly which packages are needed to upgrade? I will soon have the opportunity to try Xen on a new Xeon Woodcrest based workstation, and I'm excited to see if I finally am able to replace my current multiboot installation .... Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
[...] Do I then need to download and install the whole Alpha4 openSUSE distro, or is it possible (enough) to upgrade the Xen related packages
Yes, you need the complete one.
included possibly YaST2 packages on the current openSUSE 10.1 release? Possibly which packages are needed to upgrade? I will soon have the opportunity to try Xen on a new Xeon Woodcrest based workstation, and I'm excited to see if I finally am able to replace my current multiboot installation ....
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps): * rdesktop * tsclient Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon! Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop * tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop * tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were limited to the "core" installation. The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/ pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/ tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0 (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn) I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a nice image after startup from the terminal. Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop * tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
and vnc? We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by default" to the X11 pattern?
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were limited to the "core" installation. The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/ pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0 (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following, two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop * tsclient So, in which pattern should they end?
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by default" to the X11 pattern?
Personal I've also experienced that *iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a menu entry/launcher with an icon! Isn't that in the list already?
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were limited to the "core" installation. The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/ pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0 (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
tsclient 0.140 that requires ICA was/is the SLED10 version. There is a now a newer tsclient 0.148 for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and xnest for downlaod from http://gnomepro.com/tsclient/ both as rpm, src.rpm and tar.gz. I just upgraded the rpm from 0.140 to 0.140 on openSUSE 10.1, and it looks to work ok, and I'll suggest this version. The current free NX server is version 1.5 and the knx client is version 0.1 I will suggest as optional to also have available the newer, non-OSS but Free NoMachines versions NX Free Edition for Linux Release: 2.1.0-7 http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 NX Client for Linux http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-linux.php I've installed and tested this client on openSUSE 10.1 and it looks to work well. Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation. Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient, NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find. On the current 10.1 installed Gnome/KDE merged Program menu, one i.e find again these entries
Internet>Citris ICA client Internet>More Programs>ICA PNA menus and Terminalserver-client Internet>!M NX client for Linux>NX clients and tools System>External access>KNX and KRDC
(still I would like the old program menues as an optional selection during desktop setup if possible)
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport,
Yes, I'll do. iscan should naturally get an Program menu entry located into
Graphic>Scanning> where Kooka and Xsane are found
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On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <nteknikk@monet.no> wrote:
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation. Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient, NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
I vote for default, only for selfish reasons as I use it all the time :-), not that it really matters, but Ubuntu has tsclient as one if its five internet applications, so they obviously see it as important. It should not be called 'Thin Client Computing', the apps have much wider application than that. Maybe more general like: Remote Desktop Applications Remote Screen Applications pflodo Peter Flodin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Peter Flodin" <peter@flodin.net> writes:
On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <nteknikk@monet.no> wrote:
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation. Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient, NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
I vote for default, only for selfish reasons as I use it all the time :-), not that it really matters, but Ubuntu has tsclient as one if its five internet applications, so they obviously see it as important.
It should not be called 'Thin Client Computing', the apps have much wider application than that.
Maybe more general like: Remote Desktop Applications
I like this best so far. Anybody with a better idea?
Remote Screen Applications
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Peter Flodin" <peter@flodin.net> writes:
On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <nteknikk@monet.no> wrote:
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation. Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient, NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find. I vote for default, only for selfish reasons as I use it all the time :-), not that it really matters, but Ubuntu has tsclient as one if its five internet applications, so they obviously see it as important.
It should not be called 'Thin Client Computing', the apps have much wider application than that.
Maybe more general like: Remote Desktop Applications
I like this best so far. Anybody with a better idea?
I don't disaggree as they are used more or less on both Internet/Intranet VPN/WAN as well as LAN. Also I use some of them daily, so default installation for me is fine as well. I suggested "Thin Client Computing" as their main purpose, and due to there are both central server parts and remote desktop client parts involved. "Remote Display Applications"(RDA)?
Remote Screen Applications
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following, two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop * tsclient So, in which pattern should they end?
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by default" to the X11 pattern?
Personal I've also experienced that *iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a menu entry/launcher with an icon! Isn't that in the list already?
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were limited to the "core" installation. The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/ pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0 (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
tsclient 0.140 that requires ICA was/is the SLED10 version. There is a now a newer tsclient 0.148 for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and xnest for downlaod from http://gnomepro.com/tsclient/ both as rpm, src.rpm and tar.gz. I just upgraded the rpm from 0.140 to 0.140 on openSUSE 10.1, and it looks to work ok, and I'll suggest this version.
Factory has already 0.148, so we should be set.
The current free NX server is version 1.5 and the knx client is version 0.1 I will suggest as optional to also have available the newer, non-OSS but Free NoMachines versions
I'm not sure whether the license allows redistribution and I don't want a non-oss package that duplicates functionality.
NX Free Edition for Linux Release: 2.1.0-7 http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 NX Client for Linux http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-linux.php
I've installed and tested this client on openSUSE 10.1 and it looks to work well.
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation. Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient, NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
On the current 10.1 installed Gnome/KDE merged Program menu, one i.e find again these entries
Internet>Citris ICA client Internet>More Programs>ICA PNA menus and Terminalserver-client Internet>!M NX client for Linux>NX clients and tools System>External access>KNX and KRDC
(still I would like the old program menues as an optional selection during desktop setup if possible)
Patterns and Menu are different right now.
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport,
Yes, I'll do. iscan should naturally get an Program menu entry located into
Graphic>Scanning> where Kooka and Xsane are found
Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0 (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
tsclient 0.140 that requires ICA was/is the SLED10 version. There is a now a newer tsclient 0.148 for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and xnest for downlaod from http://gnomepro.com/tsclient/ both as rpm, src.rpm and tar.gz. I just upgraded the rpm from 0.140 to 0.140 on openSUSE 10.1, and it looks to work ok, and I'll suggest this version.
Factory has already 0.148, so we should be set.
The current free NX server is version 1.5 and the knx client is version 0.1 I will suggest as optional to also have available the newer, non-OSS but Free NoMachines versions
I'm not sure whether the license allows redistribution and I don't want a non-oss package that duplicates functionality.
I don't know if there still are on-going developement of the knx client(?) Looks like it has not been unusual to apply just NoMachines previous NX client v.1.5 also to communicate with the free NX v.1.5 server. I mostly thought that the !M NX 2.1 server and server possibly could be made available on the non-OSS CD/DVD iso. But it is not definitive or very important, as they can be downloaded. Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be located on that iso part(s)? Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never updated. knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers. The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement NX into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the existing software is: Konqueror "nx://" protocol KIO and "krdc".
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never updated.
knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers. The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement NX into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the existing software is: Konqueror "nx://" protocol KIO and "krdc".
Then, maybe the old knx client rather should be removed(?) Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
I think I've found the explanation that clarify this possible confusion. There exist now two versions: * iscan- (propriarity binary only) * iscan-free (OSS) iscan-1.18.0.1-14.i586.rpm which I've used on Suse 10.1 and before, has been available among others on the DVD iso and for download at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-GM-Extra/suse/i586 The iscan GUI front-end has not had a menu entry among the scanner programs after installation, AFAI've seen. I don't know if "iscan" propriarty still will be supplied as a extra non-OSS application for scanner models that iscan-free doesn't support. iscan-free-2.2.0.1-3.i586.rpm available on the SL-OSS-factory, doesn't contain any frontend, just the free epkowa driver for SANE (backend) and lacks support for some Epson scanners. However it can be run from standard frontends like Xsane. I have now removed iscan, installed and tested iscan-free on Suse 10.1. iscan-free looks to work well using Xsane for my scanner model, Epson Perfection 1640SU with ADF. This ADF has not worked with Sane alone previously, therefore I have used iscan, which now obviously can be replaced with iscan-free for my scanner model. Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
I think I've found the explanation that clarify this possible confusion. There exist now two versions:
* iscan- (propriarity binary only) * iscan-free (OSS)
Correct.
iscan-1.18.0.1-14.i586.rpm which I've used on Suse 10.1 and before, has been available among others on the DVD iso and for download at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-GM-Extra/suse/i586
The iscan GUI front-end has not had a menu entry among the scanner programs after installation, AFAI've seen. I don't know if "iscan"
The GUI should have a menu entry. I suggest to file a bugreport.
propriarty still will be supplied as a extra non-OSS application for scanner models that iscan-free doesn't support.
The non-OSS iscan version will continue to be shipped.
iscan-free-2.2.0.1-3.i586.rpm available on the SL-OSS-factory, doesn't contain any frontend, just the free epkowa driver for SANE (backend) and lacks support for some Epson scanners. However it can be run from standard frontends like Xsane.
I have now removed iscan, installed and tested iscan-free on Suse 10.1. iscan-free looks to work well using Xsane for my scanner model, Epson Perfection 1640SU with ADF. This ADF has not worked with Sane alone previously, therefore I have used iscan, which now obviously can be replaced with iscan-free for my scanner model.
Glad to hear! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop * tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by default" to the X11 pattern?
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were limited to the "core" installation. The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/ pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0 (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport,
Andreas
I can't see tsclient yet in 10.2 Beta 2 (yes, rdesktop is there). Is there any chance to get tsclient 0.148 in openSUSE 10.2 i386 and x86_64 and without the dependices on the ICA client as mentioned for the previous tsclient 0.140? Here is the 0.148 rpm at Gnome Pro and also a package from Debian: http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/ http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/tsclient.html The previous tsclient 0.140 for Suse was found here: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-i386/RPMS.gnome/ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/applications ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/yast-source/suse/i586/ http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-x86_64/RPMS.gnome/ Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
I can't see tsclient yet in 10.2 Beta 2 (yes, rdesktop is there). Is there any chance to get tsclient 0.148 in openSUSE 10.2 i386 and x86_64 and without the dependices on the ICA client as mentioned for the previous tsclient 0.140?
Please file a bugreport - the change has not happened and should be done. It will not make 10.2 - but we should fix this... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks: This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming burner devices. dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D It would be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus and Xcdroast) 2) Packet Writing: This has been a long time useful and usual burning feature on Windows, but AFAIK missing on Linux (at least not much known or applied). Is "Packet Writing" easy available on Linux through burning GUI frontends i.e using dvd+rw-tools as backend? I hope general reading of such disks may be done with the available udftool(?) http://www.raoul.shacknet.nu/2005/11/10/packet-writing-on-cdrw-and-dvdrw-med... Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks: This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
I agree, could you open a bugreport for this, so it won't forgotten?
It would be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus and Xcdroast)
What do you mean coupled? Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was too hard to maintain.
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Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks: This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
I agree, could you open a bugreport for this, so it won't forgotten?
OK, I'll do that.
It would be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus and Xcdroast)
What do you mean coupled?
I meant dvd+rw-tools "connected to" or "made available" as backend for suiteable front-ends, so that users can burn the disks by help of a GUI and not need to use it from the terminal command line. Maybe it already works so, I'm not sure(?) A related extract from http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ Q. Is there a GUI front-end available for dvd+rw-tools? A. K3b, <http://www.k3b.org/> version 0.10 and later, and nautilus-cd-burner, <http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/nautilus-cd-burner/> version 0.5.1 and later, are both hiding growisofs behind their pretty buttons and menus:-) Keep in mind that those are not directly related to dvd+rw-tools development effort and GUI users should turn elsewhere for /end-user/ support. Oh! dvd+rw-tools 5.10.x is a minimum requirement for GUI frontends...
Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was too hard to maintain.
Not really? I just searched through both http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i5... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x8... and found the latest xcdroast-0.98alpha15-57 rpms (?) Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks: This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/ http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
I agree, could you open a bugreport for this, so it won't forgotten?
OK, I'll do that.
It would be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus and Xcdroast)
What do you mean coupled?
I meant dvd+rw-tools "connected to" or "made available" as backend for suiteable front-ends, so that users can burn the disks by help of a GUI and not need to use it from the terminal command line. Maybe it already works so, I'm not sure(?) A related extract from http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
Q. Is there a GUI front-end available for dvd+rw-tools? A. K3b, <http://www.k3b.org/> version 0.10 and later, and nautilus-cd-burner, <http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/nautilus-cd-burner/> version 0.5.1 and later, are both hiding growisofs behind their pretty buttons and menus:-) Keep in mind that those are not directly related to dvd+rw-tools development effort and GUI users should turn elsewhere for /end-user/ support. Oh! dvd+rw-tools 5.10.x is a minimum requirement for GUI frontends...
Now I know what you mean - k3b does this and nautilus should as well.
Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was too hard to maintain.
Not really? I just searched through both http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i5...
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x8... and found the latest xcdroast-0.98alpha15-57 rpms (?)
I stand corrected, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk@monet.no> writes:
Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was too hard to maintain.
Not really? I just searched through both http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i5...
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x8... and found the latest xcdroast-0.98alpha15-57 rpms (?)
I stand corrected,
That's my fault. I sort of seized maintainership for xcdroast because it is the only CD/DVD burning program which conserves timestamps of directories in backup mode. (K3b and others kill them.) And it works very well via X-Forwarding over SSH. As a bonus, it doesn't eat too much CPU. Unfortunately, xcdroast is maintained in my (limited) spare time and I have not yet managed to integrate dvd+rw-tools handling. Patches for that are welcome: add them to bugzilla or mail me directly. UDF support is already in my local tree, I hope to clean that up and get it into openSUSE 10.2. Regards, Carl-Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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