1 Sep
2006
1 Sep
'06
03:48
Missing Xen:
Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the
announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on
SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is
http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates
The last line in that table, "Other Operating System support on top of
Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now.
XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux
guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of
2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server
systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it
very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor
virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple
physical servers.
What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen
workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation,
configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e
Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on
Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations.
If this features is possible to include, I think it will further power
openSUSE 10.2 ?
Regards,
Terje J. Hanssen
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1 Sep
1 Sep
14:18
New subject: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Missing Xen:
Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the
announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on
SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is
http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates
Xen will be improved as usual.
The last line in that table, "Other Operating
System support on top of
Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now.
XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux
guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of
2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server
systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it
very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor
virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple
physical servers.
What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen
workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation,
configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e
Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on
Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations.
We have some improvements in this area already in our current tree but
I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind. Please look at Alpha4
and give some more details.
If this features is possible to include, I think it
will further power
openSUSE 10.2 ?
Andreas
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19:33
New subject: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
Andreas Jaeger skrev:
Do I then need to download and install the whole Alpha4 openSUSE distro,
or is it possible (enough) to upgrade the Xen related packages included
possibly YaST2 packages on the current openSUSE 10.1 release?
Possibly which packages are needed to upgrade? I will soon have the
opportunity to try Xen on a new Xeon Woodcrest based workstation, and
I'm excited to see if I finally am able to replace my current multiboot
installation ....
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
Nice to hear ;)
Missing Xen:
Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the
announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on
SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is
http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates
Xen will be improved as usual. The last line in that table, "Other
Operating System support on top of
Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now.
XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux
guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of
2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server
systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it
very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor
virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple
physical servers.
What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen
workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation,
configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e
Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on
Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations.
We have some improvements in this area already in our current tree but
I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind. Please look at Alpha4
and give some more details.
20:53
New subject: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
[...]
Do I then need to download and install the whole Alpha4 openSUSE
distro, or is it possible (enough) to upgrade the Xen related packages
Yes, you need the complete one.
included possibly YaST2 packages on the current
openSUSE 10.1 release?
Possibly which packages are needed to upgrade? I will soon have the
opportunity to try Xen on a new Xeon Woodcrest based workstation, and
I'm excited to see if I finally am able to replace my current
multiboot installation ....
Andreas
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26 Sep
26 Sep
05:31
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Rgds,
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18:22
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I
miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is
the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
Andreas
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27 Sep
27 Sep
23:30
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were
limited to the "core" installation.
The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a
nice image after startup from the terminal.
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
I haven't read through this whole thread,
but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Personal
I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
29 Sep
29 Sep
20:46
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were
limited to the "core" installation.
The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make
sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by
default" to the X11 pattern?
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc. I haven't read through this whole thread,
but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Personal
I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan,
even it use to have a
nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport,
Andreas
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30 Sep
30 Sep
05:37
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Yes, I'll do. iscan should naturally get an Program menu entry located into
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were
limited to the "core" installation.
The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
tsclient 0.140 that requires ICA was/is the SLED10 version.
There is a now a newer tsclient 0.148 for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and
xnest for downlaod from
http://gnomepro.com/tsclient/
both as rpm, src.rpm and tar.gz. I just upgraded the rpm from 0.140 to
0.140 on openSUSE 10.1, and it looks to work ok, and I'll suggest this
version.
The current free NX server is version 1.5 and the knx client is version 0.1
I will suggest as optional to also have available the newer, non-OSS but
Free NoMachines versions
NX Free Edition for Linux Release: 2.1.0-7
http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1
NX Client for Linux
http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-linux.php
I've installed and tested this client on openSUSE 10.1 and it looks to
work well.
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin
client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient,
NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
On the current 10.1 installed Gnome/KDE merged Program menu, one i.e
find again these entries
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make
sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by
default" to the X11 pattern?
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX
etc. I haven't read through this whole thread,
but I miss immediately the
following, two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE
Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Personal I've also experienced that *iscan is the
best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a menu entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't
that in the list already?
Internet>Citris ICA client
Internet>More Programs>ICA PNA menus and Terminalserver-client
Internet>!M NX client for Linux>NX clients and tools
System>External access>KNX and KRDC
(still I would like the old program menues as an optional selection
during desktop setup if possible)
I expect iscan
still lacks a menu entry for iscan, even it use to have a
nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport, Graphic>Scanning> where Kooka and Xsane are found
Terje J. Hanssen
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11:02
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <nteknikk(a)monet.no> wrote:
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new
pattern, maybe like "Thin
client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient,
NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
I vote for default, only for selfish reasons as I use it all the time
:-), not that it really matters, but Ubuntu has tsclient as one if its
five internet applications, so they obviously see it as important.
It should not be called 'Thin Client Computing', the apps have much
wider application than that.
Maybe more general like:
Remote Desktop Applications
Remote Screen Applications
pflodo
Peter Flodin
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15:59
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Yes, I'll do. iscan should naturally get an Program menu entry located into
>Graphic>Scanning> where Kooka and Xsane are found
Thanks,
Andreas
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Factory has already 0.148, so we should be set.
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
tsclient 0.140 that requires ICA was/is the SLED10 version.
There is a now a newer tsclient 0.148 for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and
xnest for downlaod from
http://gnomepro.com/tsclient/
both as rpm, src.rpm and tar.gz. I just upgraded the rpm from 0.140 to
0.140 on openSUSE 10.1, and it looks to work ok, and I'll suggest this
version. Andreas Jaeger wrote:
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make
sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by
default" to the X11 pattern?
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
> I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
> following, two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE
> Linux
> with Windows (to run Winapps):
>
> * rdesktop
> * tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX
etc. >
Personal I've also experienced that *iscan is the best package to get
> full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
> or another reason iscan has lacked a menu entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were
limited to the "core" installation.
The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn) The current free NX server is version 1.5 and the knx
client is version 0.1
I will suggest as optional to also have available the newer, non-OSS but
Free NoMachines versions
I'm not sure whether the license allows redistribution and I don't
want a non-oss package that duplicates functionality.
NX Free Edition for Linux Release: 2.1.0-7
http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1
NX Client for Linux
http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-linux.php
I've installed and tested this client on openSUSE 10.1 and it looks to
work well.
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin
client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient,
NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
On the current 10.1 installed Gnome/KDE merged Program
menu, one i.e
find again these entries
Patterns and Menu are different right now.
Internet>Citris ICA client
Internet>More Programs>ICA PNA menus and Terminalserver-client
Internet>!M NX client for Linux>NX clients and tools
System>External access>KNX and KRDC
(still I would like the old program menues as an optional selection
during desktop setup if possible) I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for iscan,
even it use to have a
nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport,
18:22
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
Factory has already 0.148, so we should be set.
I don't know if there still are on-going developement of the knx
client(?) Looks like it has not been unusual to apply just NoMachines
previous NX client v.1.5 also to communicate with the free NX v.1.5
server. I mostly thought that the !M NX 2.1 server and server possibly
could be made available on the non-OSS CD/DVD iso. But it is not
definitive or very important, as they can be downloaded.
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should
be
located on that iso part(s)?
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That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
tsclient 0.140 that requires ICA was/is the SLED10 version.
There is a now a newer tsclient 0.148 for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and
xnest for downlaod from
http://gnomepro.com/tsclient/
both as rpm, src.rpm and tar.gz. I just upgraded the rpm from 0.140 to
0.140 on openSUSE 10.1, and it looks to work ok, and I'll suggest this
version.
The current free NX server is version 1.5 and the
knx client is version 0.1
I will suggest as optional to also have available the newer, non-OSS but
Free NoMachines versions
I'm not sure whether the license allows redistribution and I don't
want a non-oss package that duplicates functionality.
18:42
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knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never updated.
knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers.
The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement NX
into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the existing
software is: Konqueror "nx://" protocol KIO and "krdc".
19:10
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Alexey Eremenko wrote:
knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never
updated.
knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers.
The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement
NX into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the
existing software is: Konqueror "nx://" protocol KIO and "krdc".
Then, maybe the old knx client rather should be removed(?)
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19:34
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"Peter Flodin" <peter(a)flodin.net> writes:
On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
wrote:
I like this best so far. Anybody with a better idea?
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new
pattern, maybe like "Thin
client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient,
NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
I vote for default, only for selfish reasons as I use it all the time
:-), not that it really matters, but Ubuntu has tsclient as one if its
five internet applications, so they obviously see it as important.
It should not be called 'Thin Client Computing', the apps have much
wider application than that.
Maybe more general like:
Remote Desktop Applications Remote Screen Applications
Andreas
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19:38
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also
"iscan" free non-OSS that should be
located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
Andreas
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20:30
New subject: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Peter Flodin" <peter(a)flodin.net>
writes:
I don't disaggree as they are used more or less on both
Internet/Intranet VPN/WAN as well as LAN. Also I use some of them daily,
so default installation for me is fine as well.
I suggested "Thin Client Computing" as their main purpose, and due to
there are both central server parts and remote desktop client parts
involved.
"Remote Display Applications"(RDA)?
On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> wrote:
I like this best so far. Anybody with a better idea? Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new
pattern, maybe like "Thin
client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient,
NX servers and clients, others) make them easy to discover or find.
I vote for
default, only for selfish reasons as I use it all the time
:-), not that it really matters, but Ubuntu has tsclient as one if its
five internet applications, so they obviously see it as important.
It should not be called 'Thin Client Computing', the apps have much
wider application than that.
Maybe more general like:
Remote Desktop Applications > Remote Screen Applications
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1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible:
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
It would be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI
frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus
and Xcdroast)
2) Packet Writing:
This has been a long time useful and usual burning feature on Windows,
but AFAIK missing on Linux (at least not much known or applied).
Is "Packet Writing" easy available on Linux through burning GUI
frontends i.e using dvd+rw-tools as backend? I hope general reading of
such disks may be done with the available udftool(?)
http://www.raoul.shacknet.nu/2005/11/10/packet-writing-on-cdrw-and-dvdrw-me…
Rgds,
Terje J. Hanssen
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible:
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
I agree, could you open a bugreport for this, so it won't forgotten?
It would be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with
suiteable GUI
frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus
and Xcdroast)
What do you mean coupled? Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was
too hard to maintain.
[...]
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22:23
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I meant dvd+rw-tools "connected to" or "made available" as backend
for
suiteable front-ends, so that users can burn the disks by help of a GUI
and not need to use it from the terminal command line. Maybe it already
works so, I'm not sure(?)
A related extract from http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
Q. Is there a GUI front-end available for dvd+rw-tools?
A. K3b, <http://www.k3b.org/> version 0.10 and later, and
nautilus-cd-burner,
<http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/nautilus-cd-burner/> version
0.5.1 and later, are both hiding growisofs behind their pretty buttons
and menus:-) Keep in mind that those are not directly related to
dvd+rw-tools development effort and GUI users should turn elsewhere for
/end-user/ support. Oh! dvd+rw-tools 5.10.x is a minimum requirement for
GUI frontends...
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
OK, I'll do that.
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible:
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
I agree, could you open a bugreport for this, so it won't forgotten? It would be
nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI
frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus
and Xcdroast)
What do you mean coupled? Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was
too hard to maintain.
Not really? I just searched through both
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i…
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x…
and found the latest xcdroast-0.98alpha15-57 rpms (?)
Rgds,
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23:13
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
I stand corrected,
Andreas
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I meant dvd+rw-tools "connected to" or "made available" as backend
for
suiteable front-ends, so that users can burn the disks by help of a GUI
and not need to use it from the terminal command line. Maybe it already
works so, I'm not sure(?)
A related extract from http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
OK, I'll do that.
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible:
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
I agree, could you open a bugreport for this, so it won't forgotten? It would
be nice if dvd+rw-tools can be coupled with suiteable GUI
frontends for burning BD/DVD disks on both Gnome/KDE (i.e K3b, Nautilus
and Xcdroast)
What do you mean coupled? Q. Is there a GUI front-end available for
dvd+rw-tools?
A. K3b, <http://www.k3b.org/> version 0.10 and later, and
nautilus-cd-burner,
<http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/nautilus-cd-burner/> version
0.5.1 and later, are both hiding growisofs behind their pretty buttons
and menus:-) Keep in mind that those are not directly related to
dvd+rw-tools development effort and GUI users should turn elsewhere for
/end-user/ support. Oh! dvd+rw-tools 5.10.x is a minimum requirement for
GUI frontends...
Now I know what you mean - k3b does this and nautilus should as well.
Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was
too hard to maintain.
Not really? I just searched through both
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i…
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x…
and found the latest xcdroast-0.98alpha15-57 rpms (?) 
1 Oct
1 Oct
03:49
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
That's my fault. I sort of seized maintainership for xcdroast because
it is the only CD/DVD burning program which conserves timestamps of
directories in backup mode. (K3b and others kill them.) And it works
very well via X-Forwarding over SSH. As a bonus, it doesn't eat too
much CPU.
Unfortunately, xcdroast is maintained in my (limited) spare time and
I have not yet managed to integrate dvd+rw-tools handling. Patches
for that are welcome: add them to bugzilla or mail me directly.
UDF support is already in my local tree, I hope to clean that up and
get it into openSUSE 10.2.
Regards,
Carl-Daniel
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I stand corrected, "Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was
too hard to maintain.
Not really? I just searched through both
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i…
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x…
and found the latest xcdroast-0.98alpha15-57 rpms (?)
08:51
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
I think I've found the explanation that clarify this possible confusion.
There exist now two versions:
* iscan- (propriarity binary only)
* iscan-free (OSS)
iscan-1.18.0.1-14.i586.rpm which I've used on Suse 10.1 and before, has
been available among others on the DVD iso and for download at
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-GM-Extra/suse/i586
The iscan GUI front-end has not had a menu entry among the scanner
programs after installation, AFAI've seen. I don't know if "iscan"
propriarty still will be supplied as a extra non-OSS application for
scanner models that iscan-free doesn't support.
iscan-free-2.2.0.1-3.i586.rpm
available on the SL-OSS-factory, doesn't contain any frontend, just the
free epkowa driver for SANE (backend) and lacks support for some Epson
scanners. However it can be run from standard frontends like Xsane.
I have now removed iscan, installed and tested iscan-free on Suse 10.1.
iscan-free looks to work well using Xsane for my scanner model, Epson
Perfection 1640SU with ADF. This ADF has not worked with Sane alone
previously, therefore I have used iscan, which now obviously can be
replaced with iscan-free for my scanner model.
Terje J. Hanssen
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Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also
"iscan" free non-OSS that should be
located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
14:54
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Correct.
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
I think I've found the explanation that clarify this possible confusion.
There exist now two versions:
* iscan- (propriarity binary only)
* iscan-free (OSS) Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also
"iscan" free non-OSS that should be
located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
iscan-1.18.0.1-14.i586.rpm which I've used on
Suse 10.1 and before, has
been available among others on the DVD iso and for download at
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-GM-Extra/suse/i586
The iscan GUI front-end has not had a menu entry among the scanner
programs after installation, AFAI've seen. I don't know if "iscan"
The GUI should have a menu entry. I suggest to file a bugreport.
propriarty still will be supplied as a extra non-OSS
application for
scanner models that iscan-free doesn't support.
The non-OSS iscan version will continue to be shipped.
iscan-free-2.2.0.1-3.i586.rpm
available on the SL-OSS-factory, doesn't contain any frontend, just the
free epkowa driver for SANE (backend) and lacks support for some Epson
scanners. However it can be run from standard frontends like Xsane.
I have now removed iscan, installed and tested iscan-free on Suse 10.1.
iscan-free looks to work well using Xsane for my scanner model, Epson
Perfection 1640SU with ADF. This ADF has not worked with Sane alone
previously, therefore I have used iscan, which now obviously can be
replaced with iscan-free for my scanner model.
Glad to hear!
Andreas
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17 Nov
08:45
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no>
writes:
Well, not in the initial lists of this thread, which I now see were
limited to the "core" installation.
The packages rdesktop and iscan, but tsclient(!) are found in both
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/
pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/
tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA. looks
to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
(novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
I can't see tsclient yet in 10.2 Beta 2 (yes, rdesktop is there).
Is there any chance to get tsclient 0.148 in openSUSE 10.2 i386 and
x86_64 and without the dependices on the ICA client as mentioned for the
previous tsclient 0.140?
Here is the 0.148 rpm at Gnome Pro and also a package from Debian:
http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/tsclient.html
The previous tsclient 0.140 for Suse was found here:
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-i386/RPMS.gnome/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/applic…
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/yast-s…
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-x86_64/RPMS.gnome/
Rgds,
Terje J. Hanssen
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
and vnc?
We do not have rdesktop, tsclient, FreeNX in a pattern. Would it make
sense to have a new one? Or add them as "optional, not installed by
default" to the X11 pattern?
"Terje J. Hanssen"
<nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
Somewhere in the default desktop(s) installation together with FreeNX etc.
I haven't read through this whole thread,
but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is
the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or Photo/Film adapters scanners. For one
or another reason iscan has lacked a meny entry/launcher with an icon!
Isn't that in the list already?
I expect iscan still lacks a menu entry for
iscan, even it use to have a
nice image after startup from the terminal.
Please file a bugreport,
Andreas
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"Terje J. Hanssen" <nteknikk(a)monet.no> writes:
I can't see tsclient yet in 10.2 Beta 2 (yes,
rdesktop is there).
Is there any chance to get tsclient 0.148 in openSUSE 10.2 i386 and
x86_64 and without the dependices on the ICA client as mentioned for the
previous tsclient 0.140?
Please file a bugreport - the change has not happened and should be
done. It will not make 10.2 - but we should fix this...
Andreas
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