[opensuse-factory] ATI drivers with 11.2 M8
Is it possible to get ATI video drivers working with 11.2 M8 so I can use compiz/desktop effects? If so, where do I get the driver from? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 04:15:44PM -0400, Doctor Who wrote:
Is it possible to get ATI video drivers working with 11.2 M8 so I can use compiz/desktop effects? If so, where do I get the driver from?
From ati, they are in charge of them, not novell.
good luck, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-10-08 at 13:24 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 04:15:44PM -0400, Doctor Who wrote:
Is it possible to get ATI video drivers working with 11.2 M8 so I can use compiz/desktop effects? If so, where do I get the driver from?
From ati, they are in charge of them, not novell.
good luck,
Wasn't AIT bought by AMD and opensourced? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrOXwoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WJXgCeKkL8jMPNx5xunPHvwHNsl1v7 92MAnjdlcH3AY3SU+EuO1HDhkeVLT/DN =YUmU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Wasn't AIT bought by AMD and opensourced? Not exactly. ATI was bought by AMD, and then some information was released, but only the _specs_ to the new generation of cards was opensourced, not the original ati proprietary fglrx drivers. Based on the released specs the radeonhd driver is in development but its right now only got 2D support (not 3D) for most cards. At some point in the future hopefully it will be fully supported, but
Carlos E. R. wrote: that time is still a long way away for now. The proprietary fglrx drivers are currently still the only way to get full 3d acceleration on ati/amd cards on linux. Regards, MasterPatricko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2009-10-10 at 12:14 +0100, MasterPatricko wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Wasn't AIT bought by AMD and opensourced?
Not exactly. ATI was bought by AMD, and then some information was released, but only the _specs_ to the new generation of cards was opensourced, not the original ati proprietary fglrx drivers. Based on the released specs the radeonhd driver is in development but its right now only got 2D support (not 3D) for most cards. At some point in the future hopefully it will be fully supported, but that time is still a long way away for now. The proprietary fglrx drivers are currently still the only way to get full 3d acceleration on ati/amd cards on linux.
Ok, then it is not the fault of users if we /have/ to use the propietary drivers. It is the "fault" of opensource devs that they haven't completed the job... >:-P (... some bait... :-p ) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQh0AACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WajwCdF56g/F4Q1F6e4mllyoM9+GFx 0csAn0g/nqlbJnFG/aILss4hOw9UTORT =bVy2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 10 October 2009 08:08:14 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2009-10-10 at 12:14 +0100, MasterPatricko wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Wasn't AIT bought by AMD and opensourced?
Not exactly. ATI was bought by AMD, and then some information was released, but only the _specs_ to the new generation of cards was opensourced, not the original ati proprietary fglrx drivers. Based on the released specs the radeonhd driver is in development but its right now only got 2D support (not 3D) for most cards. At some point in the future hopefully it will be fully supported, but that time is still a long way away for now. The proprietary fglrx drivers are currently still the only way to get full 3d acceleration on ati/amd cards on linux.
Ok, then it is not the fault of users if we /have/ to use the propietary drivers. It is the "fault" of opensource devs that they haven't completed the job...
>:-P
(... some bait... :-p )
Same old song, fglrx drivers are DEAD for any card older than the 2400 series cards on anything newer than openSuSE 11.0 :-( The 9-3 release was the final release from ATI when it declared all pre-2400 series cards "legacy" cards and dropped all Linux support.) In actuality the 8-9 release what the last working release that didn't suffer performance problems, but that only supports xorg <= 7.3. The 8-10 through 9-3 drivers support xorg 7.4, but of those, the 9-3 driver is the only one bandaided enough to stop your machine from spontaneously rebooting on X startup. If you have a pre-2008 laptop that means no kde4 desktop effects (or they will start but shut down to save resources ever time you try to use the effects). Big impact to all laptop users who can't swap cards. You will need to swap laptops. Lesson learned -- no more ATI. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
2009/10/16 David C. Rankin
On Saturday 10 October 2009 08:08:14 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2009-10-10 at 12:14 +0100, MasterPatricko wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Wasn't AIT bought by AMD and opensourced?
Not exactly. ATI was bought by AMD, and then some information was released, but only the _specs_ to the new generation of cards was opensourced, not the original ati proprietary fglrx drivers. Based on the released specs the radeonhd driver is in development but its right now only got 2D support (not 3D) for most cards. At some point in the future hopefully it will be fully supported, but that time is still a long way away for now. The proprietary fglrx drivers are currently still the only way to get full 3d acceleration on ati/amd cards on linux.
Ok, then it is not the fault of users if we /have/ to use the propietary drivers. It is the "fault" of opensource devs that they haven't completed the job...
>:-P
(... some bait... :-p )
Same old song, fglrx drivers are DEAD for any card older than the 2400 series cards on anything newer than openSuSE 11.0 :-( The 9-3 release was the final release from ATI when it declared all pre-2400 series cards "legacy" cards and dropped all Linux support.) In actuality the 8-9 release what the last working release that didn't suffer performance problems, but that only supports xorg <= 7.3. The 8-10 through 9-3 drivers support xorg 7.4, but of those, the 9-3 driver is the only one bandaided enough to stop your machine from spontaneously rebooting on X startup.
If you have a pre-2008 laptop that means no kde4 desktop effects (or they will start but shut down to save resources ever time you try to use the effects).
Big impact to all laptop users who can't swap cards. You will need to swap laptops. Lesson learned -- no more ATI.
And no more NVidia! 20 days ago I builded a new pc with a Athlon II X2 240 and a Biostar GF8100 M2+ TE 6.x, with the Geforce 8100 video chip integrated + 2 GB memory. I tested it with the Unigine Tropics, and got about 3 to 4 FPS in Opensuse 11.2 M6. With the same hard disk and the same Opensuse 11.2 M6 in a 7 years old pc with a Sempron 2600 1,2 gb memory and a ATI Radeon HD3650 AGP, I got about 10 FPS. Now I find that the Geforce series 8 has no XVideo-MotionCompensation: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=90484 In the same article about the support of the ATI video chips, You can see this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r500_legacy&num=1 NVIDIA has been using a similar approach where their once very unified driver architecture now spans three legacy drivers. NVIDIA's three legacy Linux drivers plus their main Linux driver are all updated regularly with fixes and support for newer kernel / X Server releases, while new features are generally bound to their newest driver that supports the GeForce 6 series and later.... What NVIDIA doesn't have though, is any real open-source strategy. NVIDIA's only open-source driver is xf86-video-nv, which is widely known as being obfuscated and only contains basic 2D acceleration support. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117036 Please note: This NVIDIA Linux graphics driver release supports GeForceFX and newer NVIDIA GPUs, GeForce4 and older GPUs are supported through the 96.43.xx and 71.86.xx NVIDIA legacy graphics drivers. I wonder: The GeForce4 and older GPUs, has Xorg 7.4 support? About the intel graphics chips it's know this low perfomance and the poor quality of his Linux video drivers. And You has no choice (such as with ATI or Nividia) betwen open or closed drivers or the standar Vesa driver. For the intel graphics, You has only Vesa or the poor quality open intel video drivers. Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
2009/10/8 Doctor Who
Is it possible to get ATI video drivers working with 11.2 M8 so I can use compiz/desktop effects? If so, where do I get the driver from?
It depends of the model of Your ATI video card. If the model is <2400, the latest driver You can use, is Catalyst 9.3. If the model video card is >2400, You can use the latest driver, but for example for 9.8, it need a few retouching of a source file: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535216#c6 After a install atempt with sh ati-driver-installer-9-8-x86.x86_64.run, to recreate the files in /lib/modules/fglrx, I removed the if rutine related to "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);" The source file to edit is: /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c deletting the if routine "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);" they was about four lines, and remaked the kernel module with /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod # ./make.sh And later called: /lib/modules/fglrx # ./make_install.sh I try to load the module: modprobe fglrx I got no errors. Then I configured the driver with the aticonfig command. Regards, Juan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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