[opensuse-factory] Webpin status for openSUSE 12.2?
Hello all, Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release? Cheers! Roman --------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! --------------------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/07/12 14:33, Roman Bysh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
Only if you take over maintaining it and fix the problems. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On May 7, 2012 05:11:59 PM Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 05/07/12 14:33, Roman Bysh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
Only if you take over maintaining it and fix the problems.
Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer. If I was, I would have fixed it by now. However, if anyone needs a tester I will help out. Cheers! Roman ----------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ----------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-08 01:22, Roman Bysh wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer. If I was, I would have fixed it by now. However, if anyone needs a tester I will help out.
The problem is not the client software, but the server. It doesn't work: broken or overloaded, no idea. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+oWa8ACgkQIvFNjefEBxpRGQCfe0i7ryFUH6Fy/zfJKeL/2KxH pIkAn0WBUAY5CqcW4fLrmNs/Cw6t41t5 =ezVB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On May 8, 2012 01:24:31 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The problem is not the client software, but the server. It doesn't work: broken or overloaded, no idea.
Yep. The error shows as: Error Search failed. Remote server returned error code 404 Same thing for thelast two or three versions of openSUSE? Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-08 01:34, Roman Bysh wrote:
On May 8, 2012 01:24:31 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yep.
The error shows as:
Yes, but I have the feeling that that is an "static" error they configured on purpose the server to give, instead of the timeout or other error that it really produces. This way they avoid any load to the server. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+oXM8ACgkQIvFNjefEBxolhgCeKHt7Voh2Z5g3VmzMs76LSTgS NdQAn1gUIdJJLNITdKapXR2vEsU47nuG =7NTh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On May 8, 2012 01:37:51 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-05-08 01:34, Roman Bysh wrote:
On May 8, 2012 01:24:31 AM Carlos E. R. wrote:
The error shows as: Yes, but I have the feeling that that is an "static" error they configured on purpose the server to give, instead of the timeout or other error that it really produces. This way they avoid any load to the server.
It could be. In the meantime, I've submitted the results to Bugzilla. Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 07 May 2012 19:34:14 -0400
Roman Bysh
Error
Search failed. Remote server returned error code 404
Which tells you that there are no files for 12.1 there. The last release on that server is 11.3. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2012 06:24 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-05-08 01:22, Roman Bysh wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer. If I was, I would have fixed it by now. However, if anyone needs a tester I will help out.
The problem is not the client software, but the server. It doesn't work: broken or overloaded, no idea.
What I can't understand is why it has been broken since October 2009 and has never been fixed. (no I don't know python...) - -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 08 May 2012 17:15:16 -0500 David C. Rankin wrote:
The problem is not the client software, but the server. It doesn't work: broken or overloaded, no idea.
What I can't understand is why it has been broken since October 2009 and has never been fixed. (no I don't know python...)
I remember. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2009-11/msg00154.html -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 07.05.2012 23:11, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
On 05/07/12 14:33, Roman Bysh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello all,
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
Only if you take over maintaining it and fix the problems.
Can you give an estimation whats broken and how long it will take it to fix it ? Depending on the answer, I might give it a try. Christof -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Mandag den 7. maj 2012 14:33:52 Roman Bysh skrev:
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
The webservice hasn't been functional years. The real question is if we could finally remove this lame duck yast module from the default install to save users the frustration and wasted time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On May 8, 2012 07:51:43 PM Martin Schlander wrote:
Mandag den 7. maj 2012 14:33:52 Roman Bysh skrev:
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
The webservice hasn't been functional years.
The real question is if we could finally remove this lame duck yast module from the default install to save users the frustration and wasted time.
It hasn't been functioning for years and nobody is working on it. Why is it included? It's embarrassing to explain to an interested group of users or worse -- in a magazine review why it's in Yast. I think it should be removed until it is fixed. Yes? Cheers! Roman ----------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ----------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-08 21:55, Roman Bysh wrote:
I think it should be removed until it is fixed. Yes?
+1 - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+pmQwACgkQIvFNjefEBxpJ8ACgj3IEr21aFvhujsQOoWRKb4Kp gjUAoNlWFSDFltqy83i6q2l+k3/N+Hux =ALEo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Dne 9.5.2012 00:07, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 2012-05-08 21:55, Roman Bysh wrote:
I think it should be removed until it is fixed. Yes?
+1
Some time ago Pascal told me that they were moving (or updating?) the service so it didn't work. I haven't received any update since that. Pascal, what's the plan? Will be the webpin search ready at 12.2 release time? If not I'll remove it from Yast not to confuse users... Thanks! -- Ladislav Slezák Appliance department / YaST Developer Lihovarská 1060/12 190 00 Prague 9 / Czech Republic tel: +420 284 028 960 lslezak@suse.com SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 19:51:43 Martin Schlander wrote:
Mandag den 7. maj 2012 14:33:52 Roman Bysh skrev:
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
The webservice hasn't been functional years.
The real question is if we could finally remove this lame duck yast module from the default install to save users the frustration and wasted time.
You're speaking about yast2-packager-webpin? Please file a bugreport and suggest to drop it - and tell me the bug number, I'll help to push this forward, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On May 09, 12 10:27:54 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 19:51:43 Martin Schlander wrote:
Mandag den 7. maj 2012 14:33:52 Roman Bysh skrev:
Is there a chance the package search "webpin" in Yast will be working for 12.2 release?
The webservice hasn't been functional years.
The real question is if we could finally remove this lame duck yast module from the default install to save users the frustration and wasted time.
You're speaking about yast2-packager-webpin? Please file a bugreport and suggest to drop it - and tell me the bug number, I'll help to push this forward,
I have an older bugzilla about this unfortunate misfeature: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723648 I don't think that dropping search capabilites is a wise move. Implementing a proper search engine would be much more appreciated. I am misusing 'osc bse' most of the time for this task. cheers, JW- -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw@suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 say #263A!__/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, J.Guild, F.Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg), Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany SuSE. Supporting Linux since 1992. ☺ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 01:57:02PM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote:
I don't think that dropping search capabilites is a wise move. Implementing a proper search engine would be much more appreciated. I am misusing 'osc bse' most of the time for this task.
I would really like to see this feature as part of zypper. Just like
apt-file is an extension to apt-cache etc, why not have a db in
the repo dir of each repo that contains the file list. Allow on a per
repo basis the download of the file db. Of course it wouldn't be a
pure file list but somehting like
rpm, full filename, filetype, and maybe more stuff that can be found in
ls -l output.
Ciao
Jörg
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Joerg Mayer
Dne 9.5.2012 13:57, Juergen Weigert napsal(a):
You're speaking about yast2-packager-webpin? Please file a bugreport and suggest to drop it - and tell me the bug number, I'll help to push this forward,
I have an older bugzilla about this unfortunate misfeature: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723648
I have a newer one (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=761075), but I'm waiting for Pascal's answer there. (And actually it could be marked as a duplicated of the bug above.) There are basically these solutions for the yast webpin search: 1) keep it as it is now if api.opensuse-community.org is back soon 2) just remove the icon from Yast control panel (once the server is back you can still start it manually via "yast2 webpin_package_search" without any other change) 3) completely remove the module (we will need to put the code back later when webpin works again, but on the other hand the yast package won't contain any dead code and it could be slightly smaller) So it depends what answer I get. (If get no feedback I'll choose the second solution.)
I don't think that dropping search capabilites is a wise move. Implementing a proper search engine would be much more appreciated.
Yes, but if it doesn't work at all it should be removed to not confuse users. -- Ladislav Slezák Appliance department / YaST Developer Lihovarská 1060/12 190 00 Prague 9 / Czech Republic tel: +420 284 028 960 lslezak@suse.com SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-11 09:03, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
So it depends what answer I get. (If get no feedback I'll choose the second solution.)
Yes. Also, don't forget the CLI "webpin", but I think it is not installed by default. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+s8GAACgkQIvFNjefEBxpKRACgwQ+uVXRKAsLxM9gznpv49ZuX X9sAn2EIn+3f9KT8LIXCUmMglLQ0cdlL =AQj6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri 11 May 2012 06:56:32 AM EDT, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-05-11 09:03, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
So it depends what answer I get. (If get no feedback I'll choose the second solution.)
Yes. Also, don't forget the CLI "webpin", but I think it is not installed by default.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
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I agree on the third option. It's a cleaner move to remove the old code and then put in a newer code when it's been tested and working. Cheers! Roman --------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! --------------------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Dne 11.5.2012 09:03, Ladislav Slezak napsal(a):
2) just remove the icon from Yast control panel (once the server is back you can still start it manually via "yast2 webpin_package_search" without any other change)
Done, submitted in yast2-packager-2.22.5. 12.2-Beta should be released the next week so the fix should be included there... -- Ladislav Slezák Appliance department / YaST Developer Lihovarská 1060/12 190 00 Prague 9 / Czech Republic tel: +420 284 028 960 lslezak@suse.com SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed 16 May 2012 08:18:07 AM EDT, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
Dne 11.5.2012 09:03, Ladislav Slezak napsal(a):
2) just remove the icon from Yast control panel (once the server is back you can still start it manually via "yast2 webpin_package_search" without any other change)
How can we start it manually if the code is broken? Cheers! Roman --------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! --------------------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu 17 May 2012 11:39:35 AM EDT, Roman Bysh wrote:
On Wed 16 May 2012 08:18:07 AM EDT, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
Dne 11.5.2012 09:03, Ladislav Slezak napsal(a):
2) just remove the icon from Yast control panel (once the server is back you can still start it manually via "yast2 webpin_package_search" without any other change)
How can we start it manually if the code is broken?
Please disregard the question. > /dev/null :-) Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Andreas Jaeger -
Carlos E. R. -
Carlos E. R. -
Christof Hanke -
David C. Rankin -
Joerg Mayer -
Juergen Weigert -
Ken Schneider - openSUSE -
Kyrill Detinov -
Ladislav Slezak -
Mantrid -
Martin Schlander -
Rajko -
Roman Bysh