Hello there, according to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management since Kernel 4.15 there is a new setting med_power_with_dipm that should make it safe to use SLPM. This has become the default setting in Kernel 4.16 (supposedly?). I wonder if this will be backported to the 4.12 Kernel in Leap 15 since it greatly reduces idle power on notebooks. Thanks. David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/15/2018 11:31 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.7.3esr/linux-x86_64/ Not as convenient to install as distro rpms, but it works. Due to need for web development and other reasons, I've needed multiple versions not only installed, but open at the same time, and thus have been primarily using mozilla.org's static (Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Firefox) builds more than 17 years.

Yes, thanks Felix, that is what I had already done and am very happy with it on Leap 15, but I was thinking of all the other users that will be shell-shocked with the version bump on FF from 52 - 59. The browsers are very different, in some not so positive ways. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 17/04/18 01:04 AM, Michal Kubecek wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 0:23 David C. Rankin wrote:

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Yes, thanks Felix, that is what I had already done and am very happy with it on Leap 15, but I was thinking of all the other users that will be shell-shocked with the version bump on FF from 52 - 59. The browsers are very different, in some not so positive ways.

What I found really annoying was that once I accidentally ran Firefox 59 on 15.0, it messed up my bookmarks and history in a way version 52 wasn't able to recover from. I had to delete the file manually and let version 52 restore bookmarks from a backup. History was lost.

Michal Kubeček

You have to use a new profile for Firefox 57+ if you've been using the same profile for a long time. It's too bad that Mozilla has not been listening to the countless developers that have created so many extensions and entire themes. I'm sticking with the Firefox 52 ESR for as long as possible. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 19:50:22 -0400 Roman Bysh wrote:

I'm sticking with the Firefox 52 ESR for as long as possible.

Me too, on openSUSE. On Windows and Mac OS X, I switched to Waterfox after Firefox 58 was released. On Ubuntu, I switched to Waterfox after Firefox 59 was released -- it now looks like most of my favourite addons will _not_ be ported across, because they do stuff that Web Extensions are not able to do. (E.g. move toolbars, combine multiple sidebars into one, add or remove UI elements -- in other words, the reasons that I use Firefox: its customisability.) I do recommend having a look at Waterfox. It is very good. It imports Firefox profiles without issue and all but 1 of my addons work unchanged -- and that one only fails on 1 or 2 machines and works on the others. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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On 4/15/2018 at 11:31 PM, Michal Kubecek wrote: On Monday, 16 April 2018 5:20 David C. Rankin wrote: I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)

You can find firefox-esr package in OBS project "mozilla".

I'm not sure going down the 52.x ESR route is worth the effort at this point. The last upstream release will be 52.9ESR on June 26 so in just over 2 months 52.x ESR will be unmaintained. The next ESR version FF60 has the same updated requirements so you will have to deal with your "poorly re-written and cumbersome" issues then. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org