[opensuse-factory] Leap 15 - Firefox ESR package
All, I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example) I don't know how difficult it would be to make ESR available as an alternative, but it would be welcomed. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin composed on 2018-04-15 22:20 (UTC-0500):
I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)
I don't know how difficult it would be to make ESR available as an alternative, but it would be welcomed.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.7.3esr/linux-x86_64/ Not as convenient to install as distro rpms, but it works. Due to need for web development and other reasons, I've needed multiple versions not only installed, but open at the same time, and thus have been primarily using mozilla.org's static (Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Firefox) builds more than 17 years. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello there, according to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management since Kernel 4.15 there is a new setting med_power_with_dipm that should make it safe to use SLPM. This has become the default setting in Kernel 4.16 (supposedly?). I wonder if this will be backported to the 4.12 Kernel in Leap 15 since it greatly reduces idle power on notebooks. Thanks. David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2018-04-16 at 08:58 +0200, Kaigue7 wrote:
Hello there,
according to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
A comment. This is a thread hijack. You took a previous post, hit reply, erased the subject line, and entered your own. The result hides your post inside another thread: 11805 18-04-15 22:20 David C. Ran (6588) . [opensuse-factory] Leap 15 - Firefox ESR package 11806 18-04-16 00:31 Felix Miata (7322) . |-> => 11807 18-04-16 08:58 Kaigue7 (8651) | \-[opensuse-factory] Leap 15: SATA Active Link... N 11808 18-04-16 07:31 Michal Kube (5442) |-> N 11809 18-04-16 13:17 Liam Proven (6049) |-> N 11810 18-04-16 13:27 Liam Proven (6062) \-> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlrUpP8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WtxQCbBvk38bwFLWZw8OmgDqrSGebY yqkAnjS8PRVacOc7o5l/itl1OwzdChpn =5wOX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/15/2018 11:31 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.7.3esr/linux-x86_64/ Not as convenient to install as distro rpms, but it works. Due to need for web development and other reasons, I've needed multiple versions not only installed, but open at the same time, and thus have been primarily using mozilla.org's static (Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Firefox) builds more than 17 years.
Yes, thanks Felix, that is what I had already done and am very happy with it on Leap 15, but I was thinking of all the other users that will be shell-shocked with the version bump on FF from 52 - 59. The browsers are very different, in some not so positive ways. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 0:23 David C. Rankin wrote:
Yes, thanks Felix, that is what I had already done and am very happy with it on Leap 15, but I was thinking of all the other users that will be shell-shocked with the version bump on FF from 52 - 59. The browsers are very different, in some not so positive ways.
What I found really annoying was that once I accidentally ran Firefox 59 on 15.0, it messed up my bookmarks and history in a way version 52 wasn't able to recover from. I had to delete the file manually and let version 52 restore bookmarks from a backup. History was lost. Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/04/18 01:04 AM, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 0:23 David C. Rankin wrote:
Yes, thanks Felix, that is what I had already done and am very happy with it on Leap 15, but I was thinking of all the other users that will be shell-shocked with the version bump on FF from 52 - 59. The browsers are very different, in some not so positive ways.
What I found really annoying was that once I accidentally ran Firefox 59 on 15.0, it messed up my bookmarks and history in a way version 52 wasn't able to recover from. I had to delete the file manually and let version 52 restore bookmarks from a backup. History was lost.
Michal Kubeček
You have to use a new profile for Firefox 57+ if you've been using the same profile for a long time. It's too bad that Mozilla has not been listening to the countless developers that have created so many extensions and entire themes. I'm sticking with the Firefox 52 ESR for as long as possible. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Roman Bysh composed on 2018-04-17 19:50 (UTC-0400):
Michal Kubecek wrote:
What I found really annoying was that once I accidentally ran Firefox 59 on 15.0, it messed up my bookmarks and history in a way version 52 wasn't able to recover from. I had to delete the file manually and let version 52 restore bookmarks from a backup. History was lost.
Michal Kubeček
You have to use a new profile for Firefox 57+ if you've been using the same profile for a long time.
News to me. I've not created a new FF profile in many years. I have a dozen FF profiles on this machine alone. What's necessary is what Michal observed: once an older profile is _silently_ migrated to latest by opening latest, there is no using that profile with an older version, other than via restore from backup. Whether "latest" means 56 or 57 or 58 of 59 I've not been paying attention, as whatever the dumbed-down-UI, feature-short, Chrome copycat, "lastest" is gets little use here.
It's too bad that Mozilla has not been listening to the countless developers that have created so many extensions and entire themes.
I'm sticking with the Firefox 52 ESR for as long as possible.
I'm sure just about everyone who knows what has happened or will happen to their favorite extensions in Quantum feels the same way. Too many changes, including feature loss, coming way too fast in FF for several years now. I "switched" from Mozilla Suite to SeaMonkey as primary browser many moons ago, which is to say FF has never been good enough to be my primary browser. FF in its oldest supportable version, or older, are mere supplements here. "Latest" only gets used when the reason for using it is specifically about something it does or doesn't do, typically WRT some particular web site. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 19:50:22 -0400 Roman Bysh <geeko.tor@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm sticking with the Firefox 52 ESR for as long as possible.
Me too, on openSUSE. On Windows and Mac OS X, I switched to Waterfox after Firefox 58 was released. On Ubuntu, I switched to Waterfox after Firefox 59 was released -- it now looks like most of my favourite addons will _not_ be ported across, because they do stuff that Web Extensions are not able to do. (E.g. move toolbars, combine multiple sidebars into one, add or remove UI elements -- in other words, the reasons that I use Firefox: its customisability.) I do recommend having a look at Waterfox. It is very good. It imports Firefox profiles without issue and all but 1 of my addons work unchanged -- and that one only fails on 1 or 2 machines and works on the others. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, 16 April 2018 5:20 David C. Rankin wrote:
I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)
You can find firefox-esr package in OBS project "mozilla". This project contains other stuff as well so it's not really suitable as an addon repository but the package can be easily linked into your own project (as I do). Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/15/2018 at 11:31 PM, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> wrote: On Monday, 16 April 2018 5:20 David C. Rankin wrote: I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)
You can find firefox-esr package in OBS project "mozilla".
I'm not sure going down the 52.x ESR route is worth the effort at this point. The last upstream release will be 52.9ESR on June 26 so in just over 2 months 52.x ESR will be unmaintained. The next ESR version FF60 has the same updated requirements so you will have to deal with your "poorly re-written and cumbersome" issues then. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:20:47 -0500 "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)
I am using the ESR on Tumbleweed.
I don't know how difficult it would be to make ESR available as an alternative, but it would be welcomed.
-- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:20:47 -0500 "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)
Sorry - I hit Send prematurely. https://software.opensuse.org/package/firefox-esr What I would like is this... https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/ -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun 15 Apr 2018 10:20:47 PM CDT, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
I tried FF 59 that came with Leap 15, as opposed to 52.7.3 (ESR) that is packages for 42.3. 59 is basically unusable for me without stepping through about:config and tweaking settings individually. Further given the changes between 52-59, many of the addons are poorly re-written and cumbersome (NoScript 10 is a perfect example)
I don't know how difficult it would be to make ESR available as an alternative, but it would be welcomed.
Hi Just add your config requirements to /usr/lib64/firefox/defaults/pref/all-openSUSE.js -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE Leap 42.3 | GNOME 3.20.2 | 4.4.120-45-default HP 255 G4 Notebook | A6-6310 X4 @ 1.80 GHz | AMD Radeon R4 up 9 days 3:31, 1 user, load average: 2.25, 2.25, 2.33 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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