On Dienstag, 29. März 2022 00:06:22 CEST Stefan Seyfried wrote:
On 28.03.22 21:43, Stefan Brüns wrote:
And who will do the review? And if someone does the review and it passes, why
not let *everyone* use the result in a straight forward way, and
push it to Factory?
There are additional costs of getting things into Factory not everyone is willing to pay.
You are apparently referring to: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/message/ ZN26H5IRDHZMRRTC2IIKMSA5JMXJVILA/
"I, as someone who takes some pride in its packages, refuse to create such a braindead changelog."
You could have copied the changelog from your mail, and would have been done with it. So where is the huge amount of extra work you are referring to?
You state you like clean packages. Thats good. Lets check https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:vdrdevel/vdr/vdr.spe... expand=1
--- BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-build ... %if 0%{?suse_version} >= 1220 ... ---
Does not look very clean to me, also the inconsistent mix of tabs and spaces. And according to the changelog, actual cleanups were only done by regular factory contributors.
So for me it looks like you are just pulling some straw-man here, and are exaggerating minor issues.
Updating packages in Leap still takes too much effort. For Factory, the process is trivial, update in the devel project, forward,
... have it rejected immediately by stupid bots ;-)
Of course bots are stupid, but the rules are not. In this specific case, it might have been somewhat annoying, but the problem was easy to fix.
In many other cases, I have seen the bots catch nontrivial problems which slipped through review by several humans.
So, given the trade-off, IMHO the bots are very worthwhile.
Regards, Stefan