This discussion has had an amazing about noise in it in my view. However, lately it has taken on a bit more focus. What I would like to see is a specific track of all features that people think need to be implemented in 4.* for them to switch. Maybe even a justification as to why then need that feature. Then perhaps certain developers can tell us what is not going to happen ever and why along with what is currently underway. Facts!!!!!! Specifics and a lot less emotion, and words would help to bring focus as I see it and maybe help educate people along the way. To many people seem to be impressed by their own rants which might be more effective if done before a mirror ;-) Cheers, Bob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org