Joerg Schilling a écrit :
"jdd (kim2)"
wrote:
I personally have in theory no problems with letting lawyers check things as long as their decisions are not based on false claims.
only a juge can ultimately say a claim is false :-(, usually he listen to lawyers before taking decision
The cdrtools code has already been successfully reviewd in depth by the Sun legal department.
this is a very good starting point, but what juge/tribunal/justice decision says Sun is right?
projects, but this is (at least for three projects) done in a non-legal way.
your are perfectly right thinking this. But it's only an opinion, not a fact.
It is unfortunately obvious that suse usually does not go the way you propose while integrating software.
given the hudge number of open source application, making a legal survey of any of these seems unlikely. However when there is a conflict, like it's now, laywers should be involved. fact is, often, it need a court summon to do so :-(
- Either Suse believes in the reults from the legal check from Sun and starts distributing the original cdrtools as soon as possible....
- .... or suse _immediately_ stops distributing VCDimager, libcdio and cdrkit. We then start a legal review with cdrtools and do not forward to the other projects before we agree on the results for cdrtools.
You only shows that it's necessary to study more this problem. I already flaged this to the board and can't do anymore. I think we all should drop this thread for now. I'm really worried such things could arise, but don't see any way to prevent it :-(. Be only aware than openSUSE is really a new distribution, community speaking, so our working systems are not optimal. I beg a clear decision from debian, for example, would have much more weigth than SUN one in the debate :-( I think you should keep working on your very good product, and not losing too much time with this debate (here, the debate content itself is important) as I don't think we can do more now. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org