On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:57, Michal Kubecek
On Wednesday 10 of June 2015 07:45:24 Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Wednesday 10 of June 2015 05:02:36 Carlos E. R. wrote:
If they are still available as an extra, non default package, we can install and use it. Not being a default package, things that miss the tools will be corrected, and we can adapt our local scripts with time.
While I believe most of net-tools should have been gone long ago, just dropping it out of the blue would be too harsh and too disruptive. On the other hand, it should no longer be included in the default installation or standard patterns.
One more note on this: given the rolling nature of Tumbleweed, this is going to be a problem - existing intallation will keep the package even if it is removed from default installation patterns. Thus only users with newly installed systems will be able to notice any problem with missing dependencies.
Proposal: A 'new' release of net-tools (and thus of net-tools-deprecated), that does the following: * package net-tools contains: Conflict: net-tools < this-version Conflict: net-tools-deprecated < this-version Require: hostname-standalone (from debian as drop in replacement) Require: traceroute-standalone (already exists) Files: doc-path/Readme with note to equivialents of commands * sub-package net-tools-deprecated contains: Conflict: net-tools-deprecated < this-version Files: all the old tools excluding: hostname and traceroute{,6} in english only, no locales, no other lang manpages. This (without even a Recomments: or Supplements: to net-tools-deprecated) should clean up most of the existing TW / Factory installs. And +1 to exclude of net-tools and net-tools-deprecated from any and all pattern and default installs. Those that REALLY want it, will have to do a select and install them selfs. - Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org