On March 29, 2014 7:12:14 PM EDT, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com> [03-29-14 18:54]: [...]
As I understand the current delay in 13.2, the time is being used to enhance the testing/integration process such that factory itself will no longer get major partial updates that break it for weeks at a time.
Thus with the new rings of integration process that is well on its way to being developed/rolled out, factory will have effectively have become a true rolling release with leading edge software that went through full compilation testing in the last ring before factory and also was subjected to a full openqa set of tests in the final ring before factory.
At that point (still a few months away I think), the question in my mind will be why we still need tumbleweed? I seriously doubt tumbleweed will be dropped before 13.2, but will it survive past the release of 13.2?
Then this should be pushed for testing in that light. I understand about the delay and read the discussion and reasoning and believe the best road has been chosen.
But I do not believe the Tumbleweed "morph" into Factory, aka rolling-release, has been fully explained as such. At least I failed to understand it in that light.
Maybe I exaggerate, but go back and read the kick-off email about the new process goals: http://markmail.org/message/ablfa4b32bjksoel Eliminating random factory breakage is the main goal. If that succeeds, how could you call factory anything but a rolling release. Even for 13.1 the full factory freeze was only a few weeks.
Is Factory currently solid enough to employe in a semi-productive environment? If so I would consider changing repos for my workstation from Tw to Factory, but I need to feel fairly comfortable, ie: I do not want to force myself into a full installation to recover.
I think the question is a couple months premature. The new rings and openqa integration is just starting to come together. I recall the goal is May to evaluate where things stand.
Just changing repos from Tw to Factory should suffice, yes.
Both Tw and factory use "zypper dup" as the preferred update mechanism so I assume you are right.
Interesting. tks,
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