On 08/05/2021 00.33, Michael Hamilton wrote:
On Saturday 08 May 2021, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/05/2021 22.58, Sid Boyce wrote:
I have a colleague (erstwhile) in Australia who ran into the problem and couldn't understand why.
One PC with a 40GB hard drive and another with a 40GB SSD both with the
same number of snapshots but only the SSD complaining of no space left.
After a lot of checking I asked him to delete a number of snapshots (reduced from 20 and 20 to 10 and 10) which now shows only 3.9GB used.
Later I'll file a bug as this could force someone who is not very Linux
savvy to do a fresh install or even move to another distro.
SSD or rotating rust has no difference. Further analysis would have found the real cause.
It is perfectly known issue that a small hard disk with snapshots is a bad idea. You need at least 3 times the size you would normally use.
The installer should restrict or warn users about the unusual space requirements for OpenSUSE btrfs-root. Many people coming to OpenSUSE may not have encountered btrfs or snapshots before.
The issue can be punted to RTFM, but most people do not initially RTFM and will have a unpleasant surprise waiting for them way downsteam of a poor choice during installation.
I agree. I have been told that YaST warns users with small disks during installation.
While this is "perfectly known issue" to experienced OpenSUSE players, I imagine we want to avoid unpleasant surprises for new users, users who are perhaps only kicking the tires on OpenSUSE, and who could easily move down the road to some other distro or OS.
IMO, not experienced users should not be installing Tumbleweed but Leap. On the other hand, most now seasoned users have done poor choices on their initial installs, when they were novices, and subsequently reinstalled with better informed selections. It is part of the process of learning. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)