On Wed, 2016-08-10 at 19:55 +0500, Sergey Kondakov wrote:
Are you seriously arguing for obsolete packages in a supposedly "rolling" distribution while having 2 potential solutions presented:
I'm arguing at a distribution level - not at a package level.
1) Updating or fixing the actual broken package;
Have a go at it and submit it - don't demand for fixes to happen
2) Backporting fixes for broken package or keeping its old dependency (which, being a library framework, supports parallel installation of multiple versions) ?
This was already stated by me as acceptable - but nobody seems to be willing to do the work But I take this as 'VLC is obsolete and should be removed from the distribution'? Fine by me... There is no VLC out yet that supports the new API - backporting the diff from the 3.0 branch is not straight forward. And I'm sure I can use this argumentation to drop anything that stops building at any moment in the future, right? because 'we are rolling' we don't care for things that can't keep up with the pace?
And the counter-argument against you is "Noone cares about non-OBS buildservices", "ffmpeg is not special." ?
Which I countered by 'it's not true' - read all my text, not only the pieces that interest you
I don't even know which one is more baffling. I wonder, do any of you actually using your personal system without multimedia apps at all ? Do you even have X-server installed ?
What? do any of us use a personal system WITHOUT multimedia apps? you must be confused, so I'll answer as if you would have asked 'WITH multimedia apps' Yes, I even regularly use VLC (amongst others) and do not want it to be broken - including the addon codecs - by bringing a package in the distribution that obviously breaks it. And I do not want to have the two well-known 3rd party OBS instances break my system when I add their packages. There is sufficient trouble with addon repos without forcing it.
Anyway, if the real issue is with VLC, then you shouldn't bother with too many hacks or risk ffmpeg bitrotting. VLC maybe popular on Windows but it's just too damn clunky and slow-developing. Unless vlc-beta isn't working _and_ there is no patches to backport, don't even waste time pondering, update ffmpeg !
Again: I take this as request to drop VLC - I'm fine with this approach too.... but I do not want to hear any complaints from anywhere. Cheers, Dominique