-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all - I haven't seen this topic come up in a while, so I'd like to start a new discussion about it. I understand the reasons we don't install Codecs with openSUSE - we don't have licenses for them, they may be patent encumbered, blah blah.. but we also have infrastructure for other data and software that have similar conditions. We can help the user find what they need even if we can't distribute it ourselves. So, we already pull in flash player. We already pull in the MS TrueType fonts. We already provide infrastructure to automatically locate and install firmware for several devices that require firmware that can't be freely redistributed. So why is it that we don't offer something similar for codecs? I have friends that are eager to install openSUSE on their machines -- not even techies -- because they are sick of all the crap they have to put up with on Windows when all they really want to do is browse the web, read their email, listen to some music, laugh at some funny flash animations, watch youtube or other downloaded videos. The expressions on their faces when I spend 15 minutes setting up the system to install are pretty neutral - it's pretty easy. The expressions on their faces when they see how many ridiculous hoops I need to jump through to configure the Packman repository and then replace the codecs changes to exasperation when I tell them the reason I had to do all that was only so that they could listen to their MP3s or watch some video. Sure, some of them are interested peripherally in the reasons why I have to do that, but most people have a nervous laugh wondering if everything they're going to be doing with the system is going to be this hard. So -- since we KNOW the the Packman repository contains all the plugins necessary to make gstreamer work as everyone sane expects, can we please do something about automating this? - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkzm1eMACgkQLPWxlyuTD7IVsgCbBvlXnk6r2m1rNouflxrORGt+ A7oAniVhbA+zQUXe9pQ4C5UV+S5UuD/o =RYVK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org