Am 13.04.2018 um 07:37 schrieb Michal Kubecek:
On Thursday, 12 April 2018 10:27 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
On 11.04.2018 09:29, Michal Kubecek wrote:
And... why exactly? So far the only argument you presented (except for strong words like "abomination") was "it's SUSE-only". Should we drop YaST, based on the same logic? Or zypper? YaST, I would not care too much. Zypper? Probably not.
But if all (maybe just all RPM based) distribution would agree on one package management tool, then that would certainly be an improvement. If distributions gave up on giving their users something extra (like zypper, YaST, SaX, ...), what would be the point of having different distributions at all? How is rpm vs deb "something extra"? Both fulfill roughly the same needs offering similar capabilities. Both are really only user friendly with additional higher level tooling (apt-get/aptitude/apt, yum/zypper/yast, desktop UIs). In fact, obs is capable of using both for packaging software and using these packages in image builds. Moreover, an average frontend user does not need to know either format or the underlying architecture. They have a software management frontend (today people call it an app store) and search/click what they want and get it. That's real convenient and tui yast offers similar capability.
People use openSUSE or SLE because it's easy to use and it gets their workload done - be it running a browser fullscreen and forgetting an OS even exists, be it programming, playing virtual switch/router, providing a docker host or a distributed web application platform (db, app server, frontend/loadbalancer, ssl endpoint...) Being different for the sake of it does not add to that. It's great if you can handle Wifi, VPN, complicated network setups, bonding, teaming, bridges etc. Redhat does that using NetworkManager (though teaming support feels hacky, adding json snippets into config strings or GUI fields). Ubuntu does that using NetworkManager. OpenSUSE does that, in some cases, using NetworkManager. It's great an alternative exists, but it does not have a friendly frontend yet. Same for future options like networkd. For the time being, NetworkManager works least worst ;-) of these options, for GUI users. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org