On 2012/02/15 17:46 (GMT+0100) Raymond Wooninck composed:
To give you a little heads up on the plymouth trial and errors. At this moment I managed to get a smooth transistion from plymouth to KDM/GDM. However this has a little side effect, namely that the graphical session is running on TTY1 and no longer on TTY7.
One of Fedora's many expectations breaking ideas.
GDM works out-of-the-box with this, but KDM would require a small patch. The main question however would be if it would be acceptable to have the change that the graphical session is running on TTY1. Fedora also made this change when they implemented Plymouth, but I am wondering what your opinion is.
100 thumbs down, same as Plymouth generally. TTY1 is where login progress _messages_ belong, regardless whether boot is literally text mode or not. I leave tt1 undisturbed until such time as I run out of other ttys to log in on, and don't like having to hunt for what belongs there when I need a mental refresh and didn't boot an expectations-respectful distro. Runlevel 3 startup, at least last time I checked, as I've not updated Mandriva or Fedora to their latest devel versions in quite a while, also keeps X off of tty1. That fact in itself should be reason enough not to have X default to tty1, since there's a logic/expectations breakdown in having X's & startup messages locations depend on whether X was started during init or not (like adding 3 to Grub line to troubleshoot broken X). There's another logic/expecations break when it starts on tty1: where to find :1, :2, :X. The way it is now, they are routinely in ascending adjacents: tty7=:0, tty8=:1, tty9=:2... Many scripts both well known and mostly forgotten assume X is on tty7. Who's going to rewrite them all? Sure is a lot of work just because some people don't like to see the screen "jump" during init. That jump tells me something is actually happening, which I welcome, opposite of Windows-like masking of whether progress is actually occurring. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org