I've been doing a lot of TW installs since the 12/14 update wiped out my desktop. I've developed the following observations: 1) When somebody downloads the DVD iso and burns it I don't understand why a network connection should be required to do the install 2) When installing the DVD there should be no indication one should add repositories. That just makes the install program download everything again over the network. The reason to download the DVD is to install on multiple machines without further bandwidth usage. If somebody wants to download everything every time they will choose the network install. 3) The current install program is certainly not elegant when requesting the wireless network connection and attempts to connect to a wired connection when none exists (i.e. there is no cable connected) if there is no wireless transmitter/receiver in the box. This could be avoided if #1 were rational. 4) The stage of "probing the hard drives" takes an inordinately long time to complete and makes one think the install has hung (my test box has 4 small SCSI drives but I still don't see why probing for hard drives takes so long) 5) Nouveau should not be provided until such time as it actually works with nVidia cards. If somebody knows enough and wants to destroy their desktop after the install by changing to Nouveau then they can be on their own but new users have no idea whether they want it or not -- take away the danger of making the wrong choice. Just my $.02. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org