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I was directed to this mailing by a forum member (whom I thought was a principle member) as a place to post user's thoughts on KDE3/KDE4 and the future of openSUSE. I'm just a user, not a developer, and I may be out of place here but I'll put in my two cents worth and then leave:
Thanks for your feedback. Any input is welcome, which is why this thread was started in the first place :)
Personally, I agree 100% with the post at the end of the thread below. If both KDE3 and KDE4 cannot be maintained as user install options, then I would prefer to stick with KDE3 at least until KDE4.2. KDE4.1 is still not ready for prime time in my opinion. I've been testing 4.1 on a virtual machine and there are simply too many major applications missing (K3b, Kaffeine, Amarok) and still too many useability features that either don't work (icon resizing) or have yet to be implemented (panel hiding). There are still stability issues as well. I had one crash that corrupted my VM image.
I don't think that missing applications is an issue. I would believe that the plan for the "no KDE3" option would be to keep the KDE3 flavours of applications that have not been ported to KDE4 (or aren't stable enough) yet, e.g. ship the KDE3 k3b "with KDE4". That would also mean that the KDE3 runtime libraries have to be shipped with 11.1 in any case, but I would assume that this is the plan in any case.
KDE3 is very stable, fully functional, user friendly, and good looking. It wouldn't bother me to keep it as my primary desktop for at least another year.
Yeah, that's my feeling too. But I'm afraid that it isn't really giving a solution for 11.1 either. We can't simply disregard the argumentation of our KDE team, push the burden on them and then whine later if KDE4 development isn't going quickly enough (yes, I know, I'm somehow contradicting myself... playing the devil's advocate, sort of :)). But I still fail to see how having KDE3 in the OBS instead of on the media would help in any way wrt support. Sure, it would make room on the CD/DVD, but as of the maintenance of a "dead" KDE3 pulling resources away from fixing/enhancing KDE4... ? I'd have a few questions to our KDE team: - - Is there any defined upstream EOL for KDE3 maintenance at this point ? - - Would the KDE3 in the OBS repos not be maintained in any way ? Except upstream patches and new releases I guess... ? - - How would that be different from KDE3 being on the media (+ in OSS) ? - - And from above: if KDE4 is removed from the media, would a minimal KDE3 runtime environment (shlibs, kdeinit3 ?) be included nevertheless, for running KDE3 apps ? cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@opensuse.org> /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM::23+24 Feb 2008, Brussels, http://fosdem.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIwNCVr3NMWliFcXcRAigWAKCJJW7y8mKVLykoIWp9Cu3KUe6tXACgsJ5s aNFIEYrq+U6jwcv4elw7ZxI= =z9+H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org