* Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> [2015-05-06 14:46]:
On Wednesday 06 of May 2015 14:20:53 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
Huh, are you actually serious? Unless SUSE is planning on backporting every single new driver that matters for endusers using cheap laptops then this is inevitably becomes an issue and moreso than today where we get at least _all_ the latest drivers every 8 months.
The point is if you want "all the latest drivers", you can use Tumbleweed and have them every month or so. This discussion is rather
Sure, but I don't want to deal with the churn and occasional fallout on the laptop which I need for doing work. Of course *I* can run Kernel:stable (and have done so in the past because of lacking touchpad and graphics driver support) but the question is whether we only want to make a distro for openSUSE/SUSE developers or people who simply want towork on their laptops and cannot or do not want to deal with Tumbleweed.
about a stable, reliable and reasonably maintained distribution to provide for (e.g.) three years as an alternative for those who prefer the "stable" direction over the "latest and greatest" one.
Sure, that's great if you buy/lease a server today and want to run the same distro and kernel until it's written off. But for the desktop it is not so great, I have no strong opinion on a more stable userland middle layer but kernel/Mesa/X should be exempt from that and receive a refresh every 8 or maybe 12 months as they do today.
IMHO the main misunderstanding is that you base your comments on the assumption that the way openSUSE kernel has been maintained until now worked pretty well so that it would be best to go on with it. I don't believe this is the case and previous discussions (there were e.g. suggestions to move 13.1 to 3.12 kernel even within regular support period) show that I'm not the only one.
I do not assume that is has been working out well, but to me it sounds SUSE is scaling back even more in this area. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org