I have a slow old PIII-1000 w/ 384M RAM, and KDE was just getting too slow and broken to suffer through. So, I used zypper rm to eradicate all *kd*, then 'zypper in patterns-openSUSE-lxde', then startx. That gave a black screen and mouse pointer. I thought I had failed to get any WM, but after a while I tried a right click, and discovered I was in openbox. I quit and went to look in /etc/sysconfig displaymanager, and found DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm". The preceding list of possibles has nothing resembling lxde. What should I use? I tried lxde and lxdm there, but neither changed anything I could tell. How do I get startx to open LXDE? startlxde|startlxde --help|startxde :0|startlxde -- :0 all return nothing. Ncurses yast doesn't seem to have a way to configure the display manager. There's a Desktop choice in /etc/sysconfig Editor, but I can't figure out a way to make it do anything. Is lxdm supposed to look different from xdm? Init 5 gives xdm even though the pattern installed lxdm. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org