On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:49:34 +0100 Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> wrote:
Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 à 19:21 +0100, Yamaban a écrit :
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:54, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@...> wrote: <snip>
As of right now we still have a release cycle of 8 month. That would put us into May for openSUSE 13.2.
This brings about two questions:
- Given the current situation can we meet a May release date? - Do we skip the May release and move to a yearly cycle and release 13.2 in November of 2014?
During last year's discussions there were a number of people favoring a yearly release cycle. We have to make a decision,
- stick to 8 month or move to 12 month?
Voice your opinion but stick to the point and please be concise. For simplicity lets just assume that there will be no full time paid help to turn the release crank and that the work is all on those that are not part of the openSUSE Team.
Question to the SLE Team: - What's the planned release / gold-master date for SLE-12?
I can only share SLE 12 will be released in second half of 2014.
Why? IMHO releaseing the next OSS (13.2) at least 4-8 weeks prior to that would give the SLE team some time to cleanup the remaining / fresh detected issues and eleminate them before publishing them to paying customers.
Please note SLE 12 work will be pushed back to openSUSE (whenever possible) but SLE people aren't bound to openSUSE releases, so there is no point to try to sync openSUSE on SLE 12 releases.
Let me put some emphasis on what Frederic and some of the other openSUSE team members have said. Hopefully, this is a way to sum things up: First, I am sending this from my openSUSE.org hat, as a former board member and one who you can safely say cares a lot about openSUSE. Since I have joined SUSE and have seen the "inside", the community should not doubt for a second SUSE's commitment to openSUSE. I think it is fair to say from all that I know that SUSE feels the health and success of openSUSE is vital. That comes from the executive team down. Attachmate as a company gives SUSE a great deal of independence. In fact, without getting into particulars, Attachmate sees SUSE as a vital part of its growth. Just looking at the investments going into SUSE and openSUSE is the proof. What Coolo and others want to focus on is the fact that we are a victim of our and OBS's success. openSUSE has become a much larger distro in terms of packages and participation in Factory, both from SUSE folks, but from the community. In a word, Coolo can only scale so much, even though he has done a masterful job at being a release manager. That comes from someone who was paid to be a release manager on a large complex software project. So, the idea is to work on making it easier for OBS, openQA and other parts of the system to allow the community to own the release management part of what we do. As for SLE 12, that is a separate code stream from openSUSE, even if it based on openSUSE. I'm pretty excited at the features which will be part of SLE 12 and will help to drive innovation into the next openSUSE release. Even if the release had some possibly negative connotations, this is good forward thinking by the openSUSE team. Hope this helps, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org