Felix-Nicolai Müller wrote:
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Sid Boyce schrieb: | | I recently did a 11.0 Alpha2 x86_64 install where 2 HD's were in the | box, an new SATA drive and the previous mobo's IDE x86 drive. | Partitioning and grub got so confusing that I had to pull the IDE drive | to keep matters sane. Alpha2 install went OK as did zypper dup to Alpha3. | On another box that was progressively upgraded from 10.2 Alpha0, the | 11.2 DVD saw the HD's differently to what grub on the HD's saw, sda on | one was sdb on the other and there was sdc as well. I came close to | wiping sdb which was the one I wanted to upgrade, while sda was the one | I wanted to wipe. | Regards | Sid.
So much to the new "easy" and "automagic" installer. I have the same experience with it. I also fully agree to your last post about not copying Ubuntu and importing bad windows security ideas. Just because something has not been exploited yet does not mean it will not be exploited when this has become more used. In this case, a simple "file a bug in bugzilla" won't do it, because the problem is the idea itself (to have a computer working automagically). I believe I have already written enough about it and it becomes repetitive... In my eyes, educating the user and maybe not getting the biggest userbase is not the worst thing at all. It should not be a goal to have the biggest userbase, but to make the distribution the way you want it to be. This is the only way why Linux has become so great (Windows to the other approch). I test 11.0A3 and report bugs - yet, I don't believe any of my live systems will ever see 11.0...
Greetings Felix
There is nothing wrong with having the largest user base, but it should not be gained at the expense of good and essential fundamentals. I know that openSUSE and family are very robust, designed to be deployed in environments where security is important, the tools are as easy as any, citing YaST, zypper and 1-click, just that they are not very widely known on the outside. All the complaints against the distro I've ever read show a lack of SuSE knowledge on the reviewer's part, while hardly a day goes by when you don't see an article about how to do things in Ubuntu, this does help explain and encourage people to try Ubuntu - they can read enough to coax them into having a go. I could imagine a Ubuntu pitch to a corporate customer telling them how simple it was with their distro because root and user shared the same password. All hell would erupt in some, in others, they'd politely promise to call.... Live systems are always going to be tricky in your situation. The best policy would be a long test cycle before deploying live and to have a ready fallback should you hit problems. For many years before I retired, I used RedHat up to 6.2, then switched to SuSE. I always installed the latest and greatest stuff, mainly built locally and I never once had a problem with using my laptop in whatever location, tech support or lecturing situation I was involved in, except once in the Madrid office where I couldn't get an IP address via dhcp, the server complaining that I wasn't using Windows. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org