Felix-Nicolai Müller schreef:
Jiri Srain schrieb: | | There are several ways to assure that even new users can handle this situation | - proper icon to the desktop ok, this is a way, but will not safe anybody any time in the end. So it is pointless. | - welcome screen after first login providing links same as above, most new users (probably even me) would jut click "exit" without ever reading the welcome screen | - perhaps some other way which would be?
The Baseline is: Most users must configure their printer. Most user must configure their screen (imo a bad idea not to do it during installation as one might never see (literally) their desktop after booting after the installation), many users also configure their soundcard and scanner.
Kind of hiding the dialog to do all that will not safe any user group any time at all nor will it make it easier.
A new installation, especialy with a new os, is *allways* very *very* exciting. I remember the first time installing suse, i went back 3 times, started over, before i finaly took the first install....plonge... in the deeeep... Would i loose all, or valuable data? Would 'my windows' be recognised? Would it boot up, when something would go wrong? How does this partitioner work? Do i need to know all these things? WTF they are talking about here? After my first install the windows partitions were not visible, and i did not like to have all in one partition, so after a few days of 'new experience', it looked if i had come 'home'... So i decided to install again, 'my way'.. At first i went back to widnose, but after 3 weeks, i asked myself why the hell i did not switch much earlier? *All* new stuff, is difficult, you have to get familiarised with new terms, new expressions, new ways of dealing with things.... I tried knoppix, knoppix install, debian, DSL, and SuSE, Ubuntu I stayed with SuSE, because i liked it the most. I tried KDE, I tried Gnome, I liked KDE More.. I used Icewm, which i love, and am glad it is available in SuSE now. I used, and use XFCE still. What am i trying to say?: The system chooses the user, look feel, rich and happy, or very minimal and happy. To me SuSE has it all. New users feel good, or they don't... They will overcome the difficulties, and live with the shortcomings, if they like the os. If they donot? They will go elsewhere, nomatter what. Personaly, it confused me very much with the new installer, not to be asked to 'config' the password, after almost all was done... because that allways gave me the feeling it was all most ready for the connectiontest, and the updates, and the hardware install, but before, something was done. That realy confused me.. Was i supposed to give a root password or what? And indeed, my user has got my root password. (offcourse i can change that afterwards...) To a new user, it would be the way it is done in suse, and not ask himself if anything would make a difference..... I hope the intention of my words are clear? A new user will allways 'compare', with what he/she is used to... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.24.1-6-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 KDE: 4.0.2 (KDE 4.0.2) "release 8.1" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org