On 19/02/18 16:34, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-02-19 12:56, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Am 19.02.2018 um 11:48 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-02-19 01:26, Simon Lees wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 22:05:02 ACDT, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2018-02-16 12:16, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2018-02-16 11:32, Simon Lees wrote: ... > > I'm just installing a VM with TW, and there XFCE was an option. It > is apparently on the DVD, there are no online repos mentioned in > the progress details tab. >
Tumbleweed still seems to be using the old way of building images while leap 15 is using the new way, so its likely that more thought has gone into whats currently on the Leap DVD then the Tumbleweed one.
If you really need xfce on a disk image and wanted to swap it out in place of kde you could easily do it by branching a package on obs and probably changing around 3 lines.
I think that dumping the DVD size limit and having all desktops available would be more useful.
With KDE and GNOME we already have some redundancy wrt desktops on the DVD. That alone brings us to 4.1GB. The DVD size is a physical hard limit. There's just not more space on an actual blank DVD.
Nobody uses DVD today. We use USB sticks.
I don't use either, but that's perhaps not a bad point. Is the DVD format dead or dying for this kind of thing? For installation from local media, might it be an idea to up the size? I guess we wouldn't want to carry two (DVD + USB).
So far we had a vendor still producing DVDs and also had them as promo material as DVDs are cheaper than USB sticks. So that use case doesn't seem to go away.
Even if we'd go for eg. an 8GB USB image exclusively or in addition, we'd still have a similar discussion in picking an 8GB subset of the 35GB we have online. What would be the intended target audience?
cu Ludwig
I'm in the situation where I pay a premium for 8G of mobile bandwidth per month (no fiber or copper available in my area) and extra gigs costing twice as much, saying that I've discovered that a zypper dup comes to about 5G whereas with the dvd I end up using more, so I usually download the dvd the next month. What would be useful is a second dvd for other offline installs would save me from creating a repo on a usb stick from my package cache. Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org