Per Jessen wrote:
Mind you: the patter is called "Minimum Server Pattern". Minimum sort- of implies that bloat should be left out.
YaST = bloat ? That's a new one to me. Oh well.
OK, "bloat" sounds a little bit harsh here :) and one might get offended, but in general, he's right. But it's always about use cases, you have different opinion, because you use it for different purpose. Please describe your use case first.
It hasn't changed over the years, not much anyway. I install a new server (physical or Xen) and I don't want any GUI/X primarily because it just makes the install take longer. Cutting away YaST does not reduce the installation time very much at all, it only adds hassle.
If we are to remove other "bloat", how about these: acl - Commands for Manipulating POSIX Access Control Lists audit - User Space Tools for 2.6 Kernel Auditing bc - GNU Command Line Calculator btrfsprogs - Utilities for the Btrfs filesystem ca-certificates - Utilities for system wide CA certificate installation cracklib - Library to crack passwords using dictionaries crda - something regulatory. dirmngr - A Client for Managing and Downloading CRLs efibootmgr - EFI Boot Manager fipscheck - A library for integrity verification of FIPS validated modules joe or vim - two editors?? surely a waste. krb5 - MIT Kerberos5 Implementation--Librarie libselinux1* logrotate mozilla-nspr - Netscape Portable Runtime nfs-client - Support Utilities for NFS ntp - Network Time Protocol daemon rsync strace tcsh - The C SHell tnftp - Enhanced FTP Client traceroute w3m wol - Wake On Lan client xauth - Utility to edit and display the X authorization informatio shim - UEFI shim loader Surely this crud isn't needed on a serious server. But no, instead of the "bloat" above, we remove YaST and we don't even install a firewall, not to mention iptables. A serious server doesn't need a firewall??? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org