* Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> [06-14-23 13:35]:
On 6/14/23 11:58, Richard Brown wrote:
We planned on doing that, but some (very wrong, but very loud) people complained on this very list
and so you see the current behaviour, where, if you use up, you get a nice big purple warning:
"Consider to cancel:" "Product 'openSUSE Tumbleweed' requires to be updated by calling 'zypper dup'!"
If people ignore that warning on every single `zypper up` call..that is their loss, and well, obviously ours also because there's yet another thread about this issue..but if people don't read, I don't think any solution will ever be good enough.
Any chance to make those 2 lines in a larger font, or bold? I just did a test, and they were not entirely noticeable.
and I cannot recall ever seeing that ?warning?. Give it a try, instead of telling us you don't recall. Here's a recent
It’s even weird that this goes into a debate. I mean, if you are a very skilful driver, you can certainly drive your car backward without hitting anyone or anything. But that’s not a car supposed or designed to do (parking is certainly not counted as “driving”, in case someone challenges this) When someone telling you about this, then you said “don’t instruct me, I know what I am doing, I have a situation XYZ that I need to drive backward time to time”. That’s really puzzling isn’t it? ________________________________ From: Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 6:01:17 AM To: factory@lists.opensuse.org <factory@lists.opensuse.org> Subject: Re: tumbleweed snapshot download. is it mandatory? Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 21:22:13 CEST schreef Patrick Shanahan: pastebin from a reddit user: ========== The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20230610-0 -> 20230612-0 Product 'openSUSE Tumbleweed' requires to be updated by calling 'zypper dup'! The following 2 packages are going to be REMOVED: libfreebl3-hmac libsoftokn3-hmac 207 packages to upgrade, 2 to remove. Overall download size: 286.8 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 3.5 MiB will be used. Consider to cancel: Product 'openSUSE Tumbleweed' requires to be updated by calling 'zypper dup'! ============ I have no idea why this discussion is even going on. Documentation is clear, release manager(s) has/have been clear. Why not trust that and create non- documented systems? On our support platforms we regularly see people that ignore all this and do break their systems. But, again, why be opiniated about this ? -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team