(this is just a reply to ANY mail in this thread, not explicitly to the mail it references in reply-to:) Please guys - switch down a gear or two... Whereas Sergey's original claim had substance and merit in the topic (one can argue about the choice of words - but I won't go there), the rest of the thread is just boring rambling and it rather looks like Gorillas hammering their chests trying to show off who is stronger. To bring this all back to the topic: As Stephan posted in -packaging (see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse -packaging/2015-11/msg00054.html ) he and I actually tried to DO something about the situation (and we saved our energy for the work to be done, not for posting here) It won't be a perfect situation for every edge case (I frankly doubt that would be possible) - and timings in random projects will still remain an issue (once we flag the Tumbleweed snapshot for OBS to sync it to the FTP tree, another process starts syncing it to openSUSE:Factory/snapshot; they are not executed 100% in sync, so one will always be 'a bit faster', but we're now talking hours instead of days). The issue for any building project is that they start their build once snapshot is released (so they build against what the user gets) - still adding a delay for the user to also get updates for those packages. Anyway, let's see how well this works out (also with the newly added load on the OBS Workers, as /snapshot will now be much more often updated). Let's step back, observe the current solution, asses its merits and shortcomings.. and THEN get back in a PROPER discussion together if there is change needed and what can reasonably be done. Thank you. Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org