Today I decided to give 10.3 Alpha5 a whirl (the small Gnome install version). Installed nicely and easily... a couple of minor errors (autologin error on creating initial user and XBD errr every time I log in) I still need to poke around in Bugzilla for these first... But on to the subject.. sound. This bug was around in 10.2, and never solved (for me)... and it's still there in 10.3. After installing there is no sound for the first $USER. The sound hardware is detected and set up correctly, but $USER has no access to the sound devices until I manually add the Audio group to the $USER. I've poked around in the various bugs on this like: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=267232 which is Closed... with the resolution: "this is not necessary because we are using resmgr which hands out ACLs to the sound devices." Another related bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=173793 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219366 Resolved... apparently "fixed in Beta 2" and apparently also this bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=201055 Well.... I have yet to see this work in 10.2 over dozens of installs on varying hardware.... and it's STILL there in 10.3 in a clean install... There are loads of bugs on this exact same problem, and every single one (that I've read so far) seems to be closed/resolved. So.... what's up? Am I just unlucky or something? Why do I still see this in 10.3Alpha5 if it has been fixed? If resmgr is supposed to be handling device permissions... why isn't it doing it's job on every install I do? I'm off to install the KDE version now to see if I get the same results. I have a feeling the first user created will not have access to any sound devices again.... C. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org