Am Montag, 3. März 2008 schrieb Alex:
1. When doing a factory update, zypper always insists on updating a few packages which definitely are already installed in the newest version. E.g. for bash or perl-base (and quite a few other packages), zypper with every update reproducably installs the same version of this packages over and over again. There is a bug report about that one. It has nothing to do with the solver, but with the distupgrade algorithm.
2. Dependancies: Are there plans when a less greedy solver stragegy will be implemented? Right now, everything which is "recommended" will be installed, or pulled in when doing an update. Thus every factory update takes much time to download, it takes unnecessary disk space, and basically makes handling a clean and up-to-date factory system a pain.
You can lock the package, try man zypper
Why should I as a non-developper need gdb? Or kdelibs-doc and gdb = because the crash dialog will create a backtrace for you and why would you want to use factory if not to report bug reports if kde or gnome crashes?
kdelibs-doc = because you want documentation from KDE. This is not to be confused with kdelibs3-devel-doc, which is indeed only for developers.
PolicyKit-doc? Or Java 1.5 besides 1.6? Why do I need a complete 32bit KDE3 on my 64bit KDE4 system? And so on. 32bit KDE3 = because you might want to view flash sites.
I'm just complaining because right now a simple factory update on my lean system has resulted in an 1,9 GB / 3h download as proposed by YaST, simply because zypper deems it necessary to 1) re-install already installed packages with the same version and 2) install dozens of additional packages I don't need, and keep on deinstalling all the time.
The 1.9GB won't be dominated by kdelibs3-doc, but rather by packages being rebuilt as we checked in a new bash. We're still trying to find a good answer how to rebuild the distribution consistently and not requiring a 2GB download every week. And it's not zypper's fault, any correct package manager will have downloaded all these "same version" package - as they have a higher release. Beside bash and perl-base of course. Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org