-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2015-10-24 23:05, Felix Miata wrote:
Martin Pluskal composed on 2015-10-24 21:45 (UTC+0200): ...
That I post many posts, yes. It means that I'm trying, testing, Leap, and I'm actively requesting for comments on it. This is the proper list for those posts.
No; to quote description of this ml "Discussions about the development of the next openSUSE version."...
That description moved out of sync with reality with the advent of Tumbleweed. It de facto serves two purposes now. If moderators don't want discussion of TW usage here, it needs to be made clear exactly where it does belong, and posts on whatever list _is_ appropriate that suggest otherwise need appropriate attention. TW usage posters on the opensuse en list are routinely pointed here as the (more) appropriate forum.
Right. And do not forget that "Leap RC" is the next development version. Mails asking questions or pointing at possible problems (and then finding out they are not) are included in that definition "discussions about the development of the next openSUSE version".
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This ml became sort of cesspool recently, due to absolute lack of moderation.
Or was it because its purpose morphed to include a large volume of non-developers? To maintain the historical SNR, either a new list directed to TW users should have been created, or competent steps should have been instituted to ensure widespread knowledge that this was not where TW usage posts belong.
Very possibly. But if developers will be separated from mere users, I don't think that is good for Linux... they will not hear what people think about what they do. Isolation in ivory tower metaphor comes to mind. I think that developers have to learn to live together with plain users and tolerate our clumsiness. ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYs1LkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WG6QCaA5NcnMqO7/BC9rG3VTOQAreS 7hUAn0IFT1fVqkMsTh1S0y5s9ujciPN6 =BeWN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org