3 Feb
2013
3 Feb
'13
13:58
On 03/02/13 10:51, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Hi Greg, > > On 02/03/2013 10:49 AM, Greg KH wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> So Tumbleweed is, I think, almost 2 years old now. > Thank you for your excellent work on this >> It seems to be >> working fairly well, or at least well enough for my daily use, and I >> haven't heard any complaints about it in a long time which means that >> either no one is using it, or it's working for others :) > I am using it for 1+ year now and it is working great. I am upgrading > once a month. > The only 2 issues I have: > 1. some dev projects have not yet created tumbleweed repositories on OBS > (I have taken care of that for things that I maintain) > 2. some updates from openSUSE-current-oss-updates are incompatible with > current package versions. Perhaps there should be a > Tumbleweed-oss-updates repository to port those updates. > >> >> Anyway, with the advent of 12.3 soon, I have been thinking if Tumbleweed >> needed to change any to make things work better. >> >> My original set of complaints a year or so ago about OBS issues that >> keep us having a "proper" rolling distribution, still pretty much are >> the same: >> - the build-number issue >> - build speed >> - dependancy rebuild problems. > I think that this is similar to my update issues :) >> >> Build speed of OBS has increased recently, I don't know if it's just my >> imagination, or if I have a higher priority for my repos now, or if new >> hardware really was added to the build system, but I'm happy things seem >> to be working better in that area at the moment. >> >> But the other two issues are still big ones, as the recent GNOME update >> in Tumbleweed proved quite well. >> >> So, I was thinking about maybe, when 12.3 changing Tumbleweed from being >> an "add-on" repo on top of the 12.3 repos, to being a "full" distro >> snapshot. That would resolve the build number problems we have had, but >> the dependancy rebuild issue would increase. > This is a great idea. Is there a plan on how to sync during a stable > release though? >> >> The rebuild problem can be manually handled, much like FACTORY currently >> is, but odds are, I would lean toward the conservative side, having more >> rebuilds than are probably necessary just to ensure that systems work >> well. That means that libreoffice would be updated on a weekly basis >> for users, which might get annoying over time :) > Is it really necessary to update libre-office so often? Perhaps packages > that cause big file downloads should be kept to once per 2 weeks or > more. Thoughts? >> >> Any thoughts by anyone about this? Or should I just do it and see how >> well it works out? >> >> thanks, >> >> greg k-h > Thanks, > Angelos > > Hej, I've been using Tumbleweed for a long while as well and I am very happy with it, the last update to 12.2 went without a *single* contact on my side, which was really quite amazing! I am pretty satisfied overall, though I do agree that the build-number issue calls for creative solutions. I am currently handling this via repository priorities, but that's not ideal for some people, though I haven't really had any problems despite a number of extra repositories. While I personally don't mind bigger updates coming in frequently, I agree with Angelos that this might be a problem for other users with slower connections and/or bandwidth caps. For what it's worth, I'd say try the snapshot idea and see how it works. I'm sure you will hear us crying if it breaks absolutely everything! ;) Cheers for the great work Greg! All the best, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org