On 02/03/2013 10:49 AM, Greg KH wrote:
So Tumbleweed is, I think, almost 2 years old now.
Thank you for your excellent
work on this
It seems to be
working fairly well, or at least well enough for my daily use, and I
haven't heard any complaints about it in a long time which means that
either no one is using it, or it's working for others :)
I am using it for 1+
year now and it is working great. I am upgrading
once a month.
The only 2 issues I have:
1. some dev projects have not yet created tumbleweed repositories on OBS
(I have taken care of that for things that I maintain)
2. some updates from openSUSE-current-oss-updates are incompatible with
current package versions. Perhaps there should be a
Tumbleweed-oss-updates repository to port those updates.
Anyway, with the advent of 12.3 soon, I have been thinking if Tumbleweed
needed to change any to make things work better.
My original set of complaints a year or so ago about OBS issues that
keep us having a "proper" rolling distribution, still pretty much are
- the build-number issue
- build speed
- dependancy rebuild problems.
I think that this is similar to my update issues
Build speed of OBS has increased recently, I don't know if it's just my
imagination, or if I have a higher priority for my repos now, or if new
hardware really was added to the build system, but I'm happy things seem
to be working better in that area at the moment.
But the other two issues are still big ones, as the recent GNOME update
in Tumbleweed proved quite well.
So, I was thinking about maybe, when 12.3 changing Tumbleweed from being
an "add-on" repo on top of the 12.3 repos, to being a "full" distro
snapshot. That would resolve the build number problems we have had, but
the dependancy rebuild issue would increase.
This is a great idea. Is there a plan
on how to sync during a stable
The rebuild problem can be manually handled, much like FACTORY currently
is, but odds are, I would lean toward the conservative side, having more
rebuilds than are probably necessary just to ensure that systems work
well. That means that libreoffice would be updated on a weekly basis
for users, which might get annoying over time :)
Is it really necessary to update
libre-office so often? Perhaps packages
that cause big file downloads should be kept to once per 2 weeks or
Any thoughts by anyone about this? Or should I just do it and see how
well it works out?
I've been using Tumbleweed for a long while as well and I am very happy
with it, the last update to 12.2 went without a *single* contact on my
side, which was really quite amazing!
I am pretty satisfied overall, though I do agree that the build-number
issue calls for creative solutions. I am currently handling this via
repository priorities, but that's not ideal for some people, though I
haven't really had any problems despite a number of extra repositories.
While I personally don't mind bigger updates coming in frequently, I
agree with Angelos that this might be a problem for other users with
slower connections and/or bandwidth caps.
For what it's worth, I'd say try the snapshot idea and see how it works.
I'm sure you will hear us crying if it breaks absolutely everything! ;)
Cheers for the great work Greg!
All the best,
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