Hello, Am Montag, 25. Mai 2015 schrieb Michal Kubecek:
On Sunday 24 of May 2015 08:08:42 Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
I fail to see what advantage arbitrary mix of SLE and non-SLE packages can provide. Doing it you lose the main argument for SLE - extensive QA and long term stability.
I don't think so. If e.g. konversation crashes, it's definitely unfortunate and annoying but I still see it as a problem of much lower importance than a crashing kernel or a security bug in OpenSSL. So I do see some merit in having a stable base ("core" packages) from SLE (or based on it) and some (less stable) fancy stuff on top of it.
What about updated core packages? AFAIK SLE 12 ships with AppArmor 2.8.x which isn't supported upstream anymore, and has totally different code in the aa-* tools (2.8 has perl tools, 2.9 got them rewritten in python, so backporting fixes is basically impossible - and the SLE maintainers already found this out the hard way [1]). I'm quite sure I'll submit AppArmor 2.9.x(or the soon-to-be-released [2] 2.10) to openSUSE 42 because maintaining 2.8.x would be a pain. Needless to say that this comes with more changes than just the aa-* tools, and might influence other packages in the core.
Another consideration - how are bug reports supposed to be handled? What happens if I report a bug against SLE package in openSUSE 42? Who is going to handle it? WIll it be merged back in SLE? I doubt very much, because at least some bugs will be caused by interaction with software versions that do not even exist in SLE.
If the bug affects SLE package and there are no obvious reason not to, I suppose the fix would be included in SLE as well.
Nice if condition ;-) What happens if the bug is caused by a package that was updated in openSUSE 42, but not in SLE? (The above example shows that this is something that can happen in practise.) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] Needless to say that I could easily add a "told you so" ;-) - I recommended the 2.9 branch early enough [2] after my patch DoS [3] was reviewed... [3] see http://blog.cboltz.de for details -- [KDE3 vs. KDE4] My guess is the vocal minority will only be satisfied when KDE4 gets dropped. We need to let them know that might happen round about the release of KDE5.4 . [from a comment on http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/opensuse_110_kde4/] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org