On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, at 10:52, Andreas Vetter wrote:
On Donnerstag, 12. August 2021 09:45:25 CEST Syds Bearda wrote:
A pop up asking if you want full disk install or a dual boot with windows is a very good idea in my mind. Especially for users that are unaware what the defaults are.
The YaST partitioner is not very beginner user friendly (at all..). And also I, for example, have no idea how to change sizes of partitions still. What I do for a (re)install is open a live ISO, install gparted, create the partitions in size I want and then during install choose use current setup and link the partitions myself to / or /home etc.
Sorry, to understand you right: Why do you use the Live ISO? Is the installer (partitioner?) on the normal installation ISO not intuitive enough? Or do you always use the Live ISO and the installer (partitioner?) there is to complicated?
Good question. Thank you for asking. I use a live ISO (usually Ubuntu), for a change of the partition layout and then boot into a net or dvd installer from openSUSE. And no the YaST partitioner is not intuitive at all to me. Only thing I can do with it is: 1. change the filesystem from ext4 to btrfs for example 2. Mount a partition for a certain boot point 3. Reformat a partition. 4. Choose to encrypt a partition What I miss is: 5. Change partition sizes 6. Have a visual overview of the partition layout 7. See which OS is registered to which partition. 8. A manual on how it works and what you can do. Plus how do the sub volumes work. Which do you need, why do you need them. What are the differences between them COW/noCOW for example. 9. Choose which partition you want to install to with the guided setup. 10. Choose the root + home partition size during guided setup. 11. MicroOS desktop specific: the default is to nuke the entire disk. If you want to keep windows you need to choose so manually. Plus if you want to auto mount a non openSUSE standard partition (like NTFS), you can’t from first boot at ntfs-3G is missing from the installer. And during boot there is also no option for probe other OS. So it you want to dual boot windows you need to do it through the F12 boot menu from the bios. /Syds
I have to admit, I never used a live ISO. But I guess, it is the same as in the installed system. What I can say: The Yast partitioner in the installed system lacks functionality compared to gparted, when it comes to resizing and moving existing (mounted /) partitions.
People saying here that the problem is with the user are not very new user friendly.
I do agree that openSUSE is great for giving the user options for the install, it’s not the most intuitive, compared to other (widely used) installers.
But that’s just my 2 cents.
/Syds
-- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter