On May 6, 2015 5:23:38 AM EDT, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> wrote:
On Wednesday 06 of May 2015 00:41:09 Carlos E. R. wrote:
As a stable release user, I would be very excited by every new
feature
that I know is available in Tumbleweed that makes into Stable. And I would be very disappointed to find out that they will not be and that I have to wait another year for them.
One thing we should keep in mind is that openSUSE kernel maintenance doesn't work very well. You could read previous discussion on this topic for details. The short story is that unless we are lucky to pick a longterm kernel version (and we haven't been for quite long), upstream stable branch is closed even before openSUSE reaches its release and after that, only security bugs and small amount of functional fixes is backported into it.
We do not have resources to do openSUSE kernel maintenance comparable to at least upstream stable branches. Piggybacking on SLE kernel maintenance allows to achieve much better maintenance with much less effort than anything else. That's why Evergreen 11.4 uses 3.0 kernel (SLE11-SP2 based) and Evergreen 13.1 is planned to use 3.12 kernel (SLE12 based - I consider a move to SLE12-SP1 but that's for a different discussion in other lists). Even if openSUSE provides features and drivers not provided or not supported by SLE (including the whole i586 architecture now), the result is still much better that anything else we can realistically think of.
Of course, we can still do what we have been doing so far: take the latest released kernel available at the moment and do the minimum maintenance. But I can't help thinking it would be a pity if we didn't consider the opportunity to utilize the work behind SLE kernel. Perhaps
having both might satisfy both types of users.
Michal Kubeček
From: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions There was a 2 1/2 year period without a major SLE kernel release recently Feb 2012-kernel 3.0 (and still used for SLE 11.3) Oct 2014-kernel 3.12 Assume there was a summer 2014 opensuse release. What are you proposing as relates to leveraging the SLE kernel? Release with 3.0 then have an opensuse "service pack" to get the 3.12 kernel out? If not, will SLE even support 3.0 through the lifetime of a summer 2014 opensuse release? I.e.. until fall 2016 I assume. When in 2014 would the SLE 3.12 kernel have been available to opensuse? Maybe the opensuse release could have been delayed to wait for it? Btw: am I right that Evergreen leveraged the SLE 3.0 kernel and plans to leverage the 3.12 kernel? Greg -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org