On Sunday 13 November 2011, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 13 November 2011 03:51:23 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2011-11-13 at 03:04 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Could you - just for testing - try using kdm instead, and see if "init 3" behaves as it should then? I kind of suspect it will
Ugh. It is a very small setup inside Vmware Player. Kdm brings a lot of packages... Ok, I'll do it.
Now it is 02:56. It will take time to download.
Almost 400MB compressed. Now it is 3:49. But you were right, with KDM it works. I tried a dozen times.
That's good to hear. That means it's a bug in gdm, which doesn't surprise me.
Systemd claims to have special gnome support. Probably it's a feature that init 3 don't stop it.
As for understanding systemd, I don't understand it at all. I've spent the past few hours trying to understand how the display manager is launched in the first place, and I haven't been able to find anything.
That's a feature too. The usual user don't want to understand it so nobody should understand it.
I know this much: /etc/init.d/rc is still being used, so the runlevels are still started the old fashioned way, at least for most things, and kdm is started through the standard /etc/init.d/xdm script.
What I don't know: where rc is run from. I cannot find this, or any reference to it or inittab anywhere in the systemd source code, or in any of the configuration files.
IMO it's a shame that experienced *nix users need to reverse engineer such simple tasks. Systemd is broken by design.
It should mean though that your old way of adding services will still work
I have also seen that systemd runs everything in parallel, and there is no apparent way of disabling that, which worries me a little, since RUN_PARALLEL=yes is the source of many problems and setting it to no is a very frequent solution (or at least workaround). If this is no longer available, I wonder what will happen.
Yup, patching startpar into sysvinit was also a huge mistake. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org