On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 20:01 -0300, Claudio Freire wrote:
SUSE Firewall is nice for what it can do... but installing / configuring it on every single VM instance in your network is mind numbing and means you do your job in a way to extort money from your employer - and not to do a good job.
Ok, you don't like working with SUSE firewall, then don't talk about it.
Sorry, that's a misinterpretation.. I think SWFW2 is a great addition - but not a mandatory one on every setup you can possibly do.
But regardless of preference, firewall by default -> no firewall by default, is a change that can bite a lot of people unaware. Hence my suggestion to put it on the release notes.
I sort of recall that for many releases SFW was installed - but not activated.. I'd have to dig up release info for that though.. Memory might serve wrong :) if 'installing' is all we need - then... - I guess you know where I'm going. Or how often did I read in the forum on the first hint of problem: disable the firewall... Together with the FW, most users should probably have something like fwzs installed - especially for mobile users... but that is way beyond the sope of a minimal base install (which might be a better name for the pattern - as others pointed out 'server' is way too generic and in fact does not mean anything: a server only needs a network protocol stack (nowadays we consider TCP/IP as the norm) - which is about all it needs to be called a 'server') So - renaming "Minimum Server" to "Minimal base install" would be a way to actually tell people what it does. And to make it complete: we have those different "Server" patterens in openSUSE: | dhcp_dns_server | DHCP and DNS Server | | directory_server | Directory Server (LDAP) | | file_server | File Server | | gateway_server | Internet Gateway | | kvm_server | KVM Host Server | | lamp_server | Web and LAMP Server | | mail_server | Mail and News Server | | misc_server | Miscellaneous Server | | print_server | Print Server | | xen_server | Xen Virtual Machine Host Server | Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org