Closing the Leap Gap - Weekly Update All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ClosingTheLeapGap-meeting New Meeting location: https://meet2.opensuse.org/ClosingTheLeapGap (Friday 11:30 CEST) !!! PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE SESSION WAS MOVED TO https://meet2.opensuse.org/ClosingTheLeapGap Attendees (please add yourself): michel, lkocman, fcrozat, maxlin, adrian, wengel (left at noon), meissner, rommel, snbarth, behlert, ddemaio,GuillaumeG =================================== 1.0 Project plan: https://confluence.suse.com/display/leap/Project+plan =================================== 2.0 Schedule: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap =================================== 3.0 Priority items and blockers * https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176491 - Jump to SLE migration blocker - pending work on Autobuild/SCC side. There was CPE discussion * https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176304 - Branding - Submission is linking https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1174166 - Jump doesn't install on bare metal ppc64le * Maintenance setup for Jump/Leap 15.2.1 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70957 - Geolocation limits for SUSE signed rpms (ECR). To be confirmed with Legal * To agree on what can be delivered by end of October https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70960 https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ClosingTheLeapGap-20200924-interlock-discuss... List of features marked as "DeveloperProgram" https://jira.suse.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=34230 JUMP related work is tracked here https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/jump_152/issues =================================== 4.0 Updates from individual teams =================================== 4.1 openSUSE Leap Release Management Owner: Lubos Kocman Pending review of policy documents in https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Jump Jump to SLE 15 SP2 prior October "release". Still pending will be done next week. I suppose this is now done. Yes? * s390x still looking for openSUSE Jump / Leap rel-eng Wolfgang might be interested? * topic non-SUSE Employee as a "project maintainer" currently discussed with Autobuild and PM **News: we'll have a weekly review meeting with screen-sharing for all openSUSE Leap Feature requests on Mondays 13:30 - 13:50 UTC | 15:30- 15:50 CEST @ https://meet.opensuse.org/FeatureRequests Everybody is welcome to join!** https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-09/msg00014.html Neal Gompa is currently the only member who will have access. We'll slowly enroll access to more users once we're up and running. =================================== 4.2. openSUSE Leap Release Engineering Owner: Max Lin, Guillaume, Michel Max: * bootloader_uefi test fail has been fixed after switch to booting with SLE firmware https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69832 * Updated the medium name to 15.2.1 everywhere to match the naming schema ftp-tree-builds are now working fine. We had an issue that we were not able to finish ftp-tree-build Friday-Tuesday. Issues with publishing ftp-stage media were out of date. Adrian reverted the change which expected images to have 15.2.1 naming scheme. Do we want to have Update-test for Maintenance? Max did create openSUSE:Jump:15.2:Update project. Marcus: I can have a look at this if you give me list of project names Jump 15.2.1 bump happened - We will keep 15.2 for services which may otherwise have issues with the 15.2.1 version. Guillaume: ARM * FPC will be updated again in 15.2:Update with a fix for some aarch64 machines * VLC is missing on aarch64: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1175972 3.0.11.1 pushed to Maintenance: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:14131/vlc.openS... * 32-bit ARMv7: Lubos to talk to PM. Meanwhile Guillaume will drive the planning effort Rudi: there is only one single box in IBS that can do ARM-32bit so there would be veto from Autobuild team. Adrian: it would have to be done retrospectively for SP0. Adrian: either we have to rebuild SLE as it's inherited or simplify it and risk the different build results. Or simply fork Factory. Rudi: Ports for Jump? e.g. for RISC-V in the future. Lubos will make sure that Guillaume has access to survey.opensuse.org so we can ask our Users what's their usecases for 32bit ARM. Michel: for Jump: ppc64le not working on bare metal https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1174166 I just created a sr https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/834842 still pending review. Review granted docker_runc test failed for ppc64le https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/67366 docker-19.03.11_ce-lp152.1.4.ppc64le for Leap15.2 update not present in Jump15.2 java test failure https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1172584 for ppc64le/x86_64 java-1_8_0-openjdk-devel-1.8.0.252 for Leap15.2 not present in Jump15.2 I need more investigation for aarch64 failure. podman issue: the openqa/registry differences https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/1405349#step/podman_image/11 ^ command 'podman pull registry.opensuse.org/opensuse/leap/Jump:15.2/arm/images/totest/contain ers/opensuse/leap:Jump:15.2' failed , 1) once we had the container images then we will know the right path 2) Jump:15.2 here is VERSION variable on openQA, we need to correct it in the openqa test just created issue https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/71902 Max: Michel can you please get me the link for systemd-network issue? https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176088 Let's get a list of packages that have to be rebuild in Jump as they still contain branding (should not be that many). These packages should have a CtLG Feature requests in jira.suse.com. Still pending lkocman: to open task in progress-o-o Adrian already re-published project manually but there is still some work left to have it "implemented". Still pending. Lubos: to check o the opensuse-admin issue. =================================== 4.3 SLE Release Management Owner: Alex Herzig, Stefan Weiberg Lubos will have to fork all packages which had CtLG changes implemented in 15.3, as Jump is build on top of 15 SP2 Updates which will not have these changes available. =================================== 4.4 Autobuild Owner: Rüdiger Oertel Adrian Schroeter https://api.opensuse.org/public/source/openSUSE?view=productlist&expand=1 ^ Is resolved by Adrian. openSUSE Jump project needs to be made as part of the official Product list in OBS. Adrian: Marco has finished the version for the request cloning. SLE requested triggered by openSUSE community (request comes from external). https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Jump:OBS:SRMirroring Marcus mentioned that user employees should not be trackable. For embargoed issues it would be a topic, but if it's coming from outside, that's not really issues. We need to make sure that users are aware of the syncing. Marcus: none of the bots leak confidential information. Comments need to be anonymized. Adrian: I'll talk to speak to Marco to add a text to submission so it's clear that request is synced to OBS. Marcus: Single line banner would be useful for our employees. Fixed the sync to ftp-stage by reverting the iso naming scheme from 15.2.1 back to 15.2. Do we really need the 15.2.1 number, it's seems to be just problematic and we do not use it anywhere in deliverable names etc. Adrian still need to provide SLE maintenance updates in a form of consumable ftp tree in form of installation. https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70957 Adrian needs confirmation from PM that they're okay with his proposal. Marco is working on the osc packtrack which should help us to see product changes that happened in between builds or over some period of time. =================================== 4.5 Maintenance Owner: Stephan Barth Maintenance setup for Jump/Leap 15.2.1 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70957 Marcus: needs to know how to set it up, so we can setup announce tools. We don't have test-updates at this tome. Marcus: one test project for openSUSE:Jump it's openSUSE:Jump:15.2.1:Update. we're currently blocked on repo-layout decision, which is blocked on geo-location/ECR. Backports are currently the best effort for Updates. We might need to revisit backports. Lubos and Woflgang will create documentation about handling Backports submit requests until next Friday. This is currently gray area for openSUSE release team. The current way we think is that we would aggregate updates from SLE, openSUSE Backports and Jump for any branding/pattern/000* changes. This could be perhaps then aggregated to a single repository, so user does not end up with subscribing to 3 different repositories. Marcus: the backports parts seem to be weird, because the backports repo has a lower quality. https://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Portal:Jump/Policy/ChangeValidation - reference to backports Marcus is currently concerned about quality of the backports as there is no openQA Marcus agrees on the mini-interlock idea currently aiming signoff to mid of October 2020. Stefan is fine with mini interlock proposal as well. =================================== 4.6 Security Owner: Marcus Meissner No security concerns at this moment. Secure boot: will we use SUSE signed bootloader, since we use SUSE signed shim, kernel, grub2. We will use SLE bootloader. If we'd rebuild it will be a problem. What about Virtualbox which is is signed just by openSUSE key. We should have perhaps shim which allows to load both signatures, or kernel that allows both signatures. Max the problem si about kernel config and KMPs. SLE kernel has pretty strict lockdown. mockbuild dialog during boot could be an option. Lubos to reach out to kernel team. =================================== 4.7 Package Hub Owner: Wolfgang Engel, Scott Bahling not present =================================== 4.8 Beta Program Owner: Vincent Moutoussamy Not present. - All our discussions with the stakeholders of the project can be found at https://confluence.suse.com/display/EPI/Opening+our+Bugzilla#OpeningourBugzi... . - When and how can we start building JeOS images for 15.3/Jump 15.2.1? =================================== 4.9 Engineering / Product Migration Owner: Jiri Srain Not present =================================== 4.10 Engineering - Kernel Owner: Libor Pechacek Still discussing options for Unified kernel. Kernel engineering team is currently in favor of using same kernel for SLED and openSUSE Leap. =================================== 4.11 Engineering - Desktop Owner: Frederic Crozat New plymouth was accepted in 15-SP3, including CtlG submission, this should be used for Jump. Other CtlG features are being integrated in SLE atm. =================================== 4.12 Quality Assurance / Migrations Owner: Marita Werner, Heiko, Wei Gao Wei: zypper issue was fixed so we can test as soon as a new build is published. Jump -> SLE scenario we have found a blocker issue. Issues is blocked on Lubos who needs to fill questionary for SCC/happy-customer team Lubos to confirm what architectures need to be tested. So far the x86_64 is the only one which is tested. Leap -> Leap scenario we're blocked on JIRA feature. We can only give support but we can't commit to do entire testing. [GW]: Latest udpate link: https://confluence.suse.com/display/qasleapac1/Leap_to_sle+status =================================== 4.13 SLE Architect Owner: Thorsten Kukuk Not present =================================== 4.14 Marketing and Community management Owner: Douglas DeMaio (on leave) Feature Requests, Submit Requests for openSUSE Jump Take Shape - https://news.opensuse.org/2020/09/23/feature-requests-submit-requests-for-op... Benchmarks TW vs. Leap vs. Jump - https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/distributions/1208395-opensus... Review of the landing page for Jump before any further announcements https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap:Jump Consider providing a survey on https://survey.opensuse.org/ for a Beta Release of Jump to get feedback from the community. 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