On 05.07.22 at 18:19 Michael Pujos wrote:
On 7/5/22 17:46, Dan Čermák wrote:
- aim: provide a good desktop for a ALP but don't duplicate work for maintainers (they don't want to ship rpms & containers/flatpak)
The day some essential software (such as Firefox) is only available as flatpak on Tumbleweed (whether audited or not), will be the day I seriously consider switching distro. I sort of understand why the trend is to run software into boxes into boxes, but I really dislike it.
Just my 2 cents (not intending to start a flame war or bikeshedding): Basically I do not care which command I run to fully update my system. If "zypper dup" or "flatpak something" take care of that without breaking things, I am fine with it. ;-) I do not install things via rubygems or pip in addition to RPM packages, because then I would need to take care of two or more different things and would need to understand two or more distribution mechanism (and be able to debug them and answer funny questions on conflicts or similar). If it makes life easier for packagers and lets me (and the distribution) use "packages" from other distros more easily, then it sounds like a step in the right direction. I think many people are frustrated by examples like Canonical and their stunt with Firefox as a snap (which apparently broke some functions with KeepassXC). I have too little knowledge of flatpak to judge if it suffers from the same limitations as snaps. I have not followed the discussion closely enough, but my first thought was to build both rpm and flatpak out of the same source package in OBS. Not sure if that is possible. Have a nice day everyone! Kind Regards, Johannes -- Johannes Kastl Linux Consultant & Trainer Tel.: +49 (0) 151 2372 5802 Mail: kastl@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537